Right, but i don't think those clamps will fit these bikes, unless
they have the old skinnier downtubes. It seems like the last time this
topic went around (maybe it was the BOB list), there isn't a clamp
available for oversize steel tubing.

That's a lovely frame - thanks for excellent photos, Bryan. The
details on this bike are really lovely. The top head tube lug in
particular is so nice that it's almost an afterthought that it also
has a practical extension to it. Not to pick on the silver Quickbeam
(since the silver and new decals have already taken some abuse), but
the color and graphics on the Hillbourne beat it hands-down.

-- 
Bill Connell
St. Paul, MN

On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 4:25 PM, James Warren <jimcwar...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> You can't go doing too many things that will raise the price. I myself
> don't like downtube shifters anymore, but I remember once having no
> problem mounting one of those clamp-on things to hold them on an old
> Trek that didn't have the braze-ons. So good decision if it kept the
> cost down.
>
> On May 2, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Garth wrote:
>
>>
>>   Wow, I hadn't noticed that until now either about the missing DT
>> shifter braze ons. I would have thought it would have them because you
>> can always add the cable stops, but not vice versa. It was a design
>> decision, assuming you'd be using bar ends,brifters or thumb shifters.
>> They can't please everyone all the time.

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