The VO cages look nearly identical to some cages I've seen under Trek,
Topeak, and possibly other labels. Don't let that discourage anybody -
they are/were nice cages under any label.

On Mar 8, 1:34 am, "Bill M." <bmenn...@comcast.net> wrote:
> My mistake, I have the King cages that Riv sells, which are not the
> Iris model:
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/waterbottles_and_cages#product=2...
>
> Rather plain looking (compared to the VO, IMO), and dull finished.
>
> Doug, do you have direct knowledge of how the VO cages are made?  I'd
> be rather surprised if there was any more automation involved than
> there is in the King cages.  I'd also be a little surprised if you had
> any more to go on than an assumption, but I've been surprised before.
>
> Bill
>
> On Mar 7, 9:27 pm, Doug Van Cleve <dvancl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Again, could be wrong but the King Iris is the fist cage I recall seeing of
> > that alternative design:  http://www.kingcage.com/Iris.html.  Andrews has
> > modified the design slightly, web page is out of date.  Ron welds these up
> > himself, it is amazing that he can sell them for the same price as ones made
> > by a robot or at least an automated procedure in Taiwan...
>
> > Doug
>
> > On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Bill M. <bmenn...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > I have a pair each of the King Iris and the VO Moderniste.  The King
> > > is a nice but fairly conventional looking cage, nothing special.  The
> > > VO is bright and shiny and has a distinctive and attractive swoop to
> > > it.  The King *might* hold a bit more securely on a really rough road,
> > > but the VO takes the style points IMO.
>
> > > Bill
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