Don't underestimate the forgiving nature of a big soft tire. If you're
running 40 mm rubber at 60 psi, peak stresses on the wheels and frame
are going to be reduced.

On Feb 14, 5:21 pm, charlie <charles_v...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I started reading between the lines as was implied and it dawned on me
> that when used on fire trails (which I don't ride on.....ever) the
> weight limits could be somewhat higher, I presume.
>  I'm 15-20 pounds over the Hillborne's limit but am a careful rider
> and usually ride only on roads/road shoulders and extremely rarely on
> smooth trails or gravel driveways for short distances.
> I have to keep in mind that the Riv gang is surrounded by miles of
> fire trails in the hills and that is simply something I don't have in
> my area. For a long time I have avoided purchasing because of this
> oversight in terrain differences. I don't know how these trails are as
> far as roots, bumps or rocks but I would imagine they are not like
> asphalt.  Perhaps I can now actually justify a Hillborne frame for my
> uses since my route surfaces aren't at all like I think Grant and gang
> ride on.
> I have been riding an aluminum & steel epoxied single speed for a
> couple thousand miles now and it is 25 years old. That bike appears to
> be working fine so this gives me confidence that the Riv weight limit
> suggestions are not set in stone and are more than likely the result
> of a concern for liability and longevity rather than  a worry about
> frame/fork failure. At least they aren't carbon fiber.
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