Don't forget they've got some CX racers at Riv who probably stress stuff far
harder than we would in a casual off pavement excursion.  And Rich's wheels
are as good as they come.  If you ride sensibly, with due caution to the
results of crashing off-road, you'll be fine.  I think you're right in
interpreting published limits as being conservative.

dougP

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From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
[mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of charlie
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 3:22 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] weight limit/use chart


I started reading between the lines as was implied and it dawned on me
that when used on fire trails (which I don't ride on.....ever) the
weight limits could be somewhat higher, I presume.
 I'm 15-20 pounds over the Hillborne's limit but am a careful rider
and usually ride only on roads/road shoulders and extremely rarely on
smooth trails or gravel driveways for short distances.
I have to keep in mind that the Riv gang is surrounded by miles of
fire trails in the hills and that is simply something I don't have in
my area. For a long time I have avoided purchasing because of this
oversight in terrain differences. I don't know how these trails are as
far as roots, bumps or rocks but I would imagine they are not like
asphalt.  Perhaps I can now actually justify a Hillborne frame for my
uses since my route surfaces aren't at all like I think Grant and gang
ride on.
I have been riding an aluminum & steel epoxied single speed for a
couple thousand miles now and it is 25 years old. That bike appears to
be working fine so this gives me confidence that the Riv weight limit
suggestions are not set in stone and are more than likely the result
of a concern for liability and longevity rather than  a worry about
frame/fork failure. At least they aren't carbon fiber.




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