I've re-read them once, maybe twice.  I'm inspired to read them now... :-)

On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:29 PM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:13 PM, David Estes <cyclotour...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I guess I came into this the opposite way.  I was a BOB, Bridgestone
>> Owner's Bunch member that ended up on the Rivendell mailing list when GP
>> started the company.  Although I read the Hobbit and LOTR in middle school,
>> I didn't really make the connection right away.  It had been fourteen years
>> or so since I read the books, and "Rivendell" the place didn't really stand
>> out for me.  Plus I'm just slow that way.
>>
>> I'll probably start reading them to my oldest rather soon.  Right now
>> going through the L. Frank Baum Oz books which have a lot of the same
>> elements in them.
>>
>> Bonus question:  Anybody re-read the LOTR books after seeing the movies,
>> and did that make the books better/worse for you when you read them again?
>
>
> My situation was similar, although I didn't read any Tolkien until I was in
> my 40s. LOTR and Hobbit were popular among some of my fellow 7th graders
> (1967-8; "Frodo Lives! was a popular graffito) but I somehow never got
> around to reading them. However, I have read Hobbit and the Trilogy at least
> 20 times since my first reading; they sit on my shelf and I will often pick
> them up and skip and skim for a quick before-sleep read.
>
> It's funny, even now I don't think of LOTR, etc, when I seen things from
> Riv Bic Works; I think of Grant. And vice versa: Frodo doesn't make me think
> fondly of my bikes.
>
> I thought the movies were quite well done, as I had been dreading their
> Hollywood-ization (hobbit song and dance numbers, gratuitous sex and nudity
> among the elves, slow motion dismemberment, with closeups of severed limbs
> and spurting arterial blood, among the orcs, car chase scenes in the caverns
> of Mora, Gimli talking jive). The battle scenes in particular were
> interesting and, I think, well done, and Gandalf hit the right mix of
> avuncular crustiness and hieratic wizardly dignity. I found some of the
> elven folk a little too elevated, and I didn't like Legolas's hairstyle. But
> all in all, quite well done, from this Hollywood skeptic.
>
> But I find the books, still, better, and the movies didn't change my
> opinion of them.
>
> Favorite passages, for the language and the images and feelings they
> conjure:
>
> A strong place and wonderful was Isengard, and long it had been beautiful;
> and there great lords had dwelt, the wardens of Gondor upon the West, and
> wise men that watched the stars. But Saruman had slowly shaped it to his
> shifting purposes, and made it better, as he thought, being deceived -- for
> all those arts and subtle devices, for which he forsook his former wisdom,
> and which donfly he imagined were his own, came but from Mordor; so that
> what he made was naught, only a little copy, a child's model or a slave's
> flattery, of that vast fortress ... Barad-dur, the Dark Tower, which
> suffered no rival, and laughed at flattery, biding its time, secure in its
> prie and its immeasurable strength. (II, 8).
>
> And: Naked I was sent back -- for a brief time, until my taks was done. And
> naked I lay upon the mountain-top. The tower behind was crumbled into dust,
> the window gone; the ruined stair was choked with burned and broken s tone.
> I was alone, forgotten, without escape upon the hard horn of the world.
> There I lay staring upward, while the stars wheeled over, and each day was
> as long as a life-age of the earth. Faint to my ears came the gathered
> rumour of all lands: the springing and the dying, the song and the weeping,
> and the slow everlasting groan of overburdened stone. And so at the last
> Gwaithir the Windlord found me again, and he took me up and bore me away.
> (II, 5)
>
> >
>


-- 
Cheers,
David
Redlands, CA

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