In other Google groups that I'm on, when I view the group, the links in the left bar read "Conversations", "Members", "About", "My membership settings". But in the Racket Users, there isn't a link to the "Members" list.
On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 5:24 PM Sage Gerard <[email protected]> wrote: > Looks like I scoped invitation powers to group managers, not members. > Checking on this. > > > Sent from ProtonMail mobile > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > On Dec 19, 2021, 4:17 PM, Nadeem Abdul Hamid < [email protected]> wrote: > > > I don't have any special privileges... when I view the Google group, I > don't see a "Members" page at all and no where to invite anyone else. All I > can access is a link "My membership settings". > > --- nadeem > > > On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 3:49 PM Robby Findler <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> When I follow the link at the bottom of one of these messages, click on >> members, I see an "add members" button and clicking on it gives me a place >> to add email addresses. I didn't actually add email addresses to the list >> and try to add them, and I might have already had special privileges on >> this list so that might not have been the most useful test. >> >> Robby >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 11:32 AM Sage Gerard <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Alright, thanks to all of you for the quick replies. As of this writing, >>> the list has been reconfigured to create an explicit perimeter between the >>> non-members and members. The public can no longer let themselves in. >>> >>> Not totally out of the woods yet. >>> >>> 1. Someone please confirm if you can invite others using Members >>> page -> "Add Member". If not, then please follow up with me. >>> 2. This model can be compromised by someone going rogue and inviting >>> a bunch of spammers. I'm expecting that our communal trust is high enough >>> to make this unlikely. >>> >>> Considering the risk profile seems less scary, disregard request to >>> delete my emails. :) >>> On 12/18/21 3:02 PM, Matthias Felleisen wrote: >>> >>> >>> +2! And many thanks. (I was personally spared this spam until very >>> recently. No clue why) >>> >>> — Matthias >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 18, 2021, at 2:55 PM, Robby Findler <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> +1! Thank you. >>> >>> Robby >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 1:43 PM Matthew Flatt <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> The "members" option sounds right to me. Thanks for tracking down a way >>>> to improve the situation! >>>> >>>> At Sat, 18 Dec 2021 19:35:23 +0000, Sage Gerard wrote: >>>> > Core team, >>>> > >>>> > Sam asked me to issue bans for a troublesome spammer. I've done so, >>>> even >>>> > just today. I understand I need quorum for larger decisions. This is >>>> why >>>> > I have not yet reconfigured the list to permanently stop the spammer. >>>> > After researching the problem further, I need your urgent attention. >>>> > >>>> > I found that the spam messages sometimes link to other Google group >>>> > posts affected by the spammer. A recent trail leads to a >>>> > comp.lang.python Google message in 2017. I suspect that email >>>> addresses >>>> > are scraped in unmoderated lists that freely hand out membership. >>>> After >>>> > checking the list settings, I found that this is one of those lists. I >>>> > hypothesize that our email addresses are being scraped and >>>> > cross-referenced for use in other unmoderated lists. >>>> > >>>> > It's one thing to flatly complain about a spammer on this list, and >>>> > another to willingly maintain a transmission vector. We need to stop >>>> > automatically handing out group membership with our current settings. >>>> We >>>> > can have ________ issue list memberships. I need you all to fill in >>>> the >>>> > blank with "moderators" or "members." I'll translate the settings >>>> > accordingly. >>>> > >>>> > Given the holidays, I respect your time. Please reciprocate with >>>> respect >>>> > for the urgency this problem creates. I will revoke my own mailing >>>> list >>>> > privileges and membership in three weeks, on January 8th, 2022. I will >>>> > leave the settings however they read at the time to prevent >>>> > interruption, and request that own messages then be deleted to limit >>>> the >>>> > role my email address plays for the spammer. >>>> > >>>> > I am not volunteering to moderate membership applications, and I am >>>> not >>>> > commenting on how to verify the impact of possible email leaks. >>>> Between >>>> > the Discourse move and (majority?) perspective towards email, I'm not >>>> > sure how I would be useful doing either. If my opinion holds weight, >>>> I'd >>>> > advise the answer be "members" so that any available moderators can >>>> > focus on rule breakers while the community grows at a self-directed >>>> speed. >>>> > >>>> > Let me know, and thank you. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> > "Racket Users" group. >>>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>> send an >>>> > email to [email protected]. >>>> > To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> > >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/5fa6a8bb-88e4-37c6-f0b9-2ed372bc >>>> > e8fe%40sagegerard.com. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Racket Users" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/20211218124300.343%40sirmail.smtps.cs.utah.edu >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Racket Users" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/CAL3TdOMCXH4Zio1%2B96Nj_Zgj2vByetG-%3D8i93%3DLYjTpaBrw8DA%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/CAL3TdOMCXH4Zio1%2B96Nj_Zgj2vByetG-%3D8i93%3DLYjTpaBrw8DA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Racket Users" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/649B3011-618B-466E-AE20-B4C13629CA71%40felleisen.org >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/649B3011-618B-466E-AE20-B4C13629CA71%40felleisen.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Racket Users" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/ef18d8d4-0305-1cf9-f657-434c19843dc2%40sagegerard.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/ef18d8d4-0305-1cf9-f657-434c19843dc2%40sagegerard.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Racket Users" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/CAL3TdOPq86_JbWu5twwmoQSOF1xYqqsfDiy%2B16a6%2BDAZKnUtBw%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/CAL3TdOPq86_JbWu5twwmoQSOF1xYqqsfDiy%2B16a6%2BDAZKnUtBw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Racket Users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/A6aJ3TPprk-SAdgoLHi-h-ZCFj_9G6ZftL9c99ajyEtioSfOrQM5AUoKXGCKJz7NKxf0yNny4SJTqcpRzGAgES70hTdG-DJP-Si2m_CGG98%3D%40sagegerard.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/A6aJ3TPprk-SAdgoLHi-h-ZCFj_9G6ZftL9c99ajyEtioSfOrQM5AUoKXGCKJz7NKxf0yNny4SJTqcpRzGAgES70hTdG-DJP-Si2m_CGG98%3D%40sagegerard.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Racket Users" group. 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