Dear Colleagues,

Thank you very much for your help, it’s all clear now. (I got way more
than I asked for, for example, my trees include only extant taxa). And
yes, branching.times() and getBtimes() return exact same numbers of
course, I just didn’t understand ow indexing works.

Next question, a very simple one again.

I have two newick trees, identical topology. In one I have branch lengths,
in the other I have node names. I would like a tree with both. How do I do
this?

Thanks in advance!

-- 
Lev Yampolsky

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On 1/13/16, 4:20 AM, "Emmanuel Paradis" <emmanuel.para...@ird.fr> wrote:

>To pile a little bit more after David's message, ape has the function
>ltt.plot.coords which does the same thing than phytools::ltt but with
>different options, including 'tol' which specifies the tolerance for
>considering a tree as ultrametric or not.
>
>Best,
>
>Emmanuel
>
>Le 13/01/2016 03:29, Liam J. Revell a écrit :
>> Hi Lev.
>>
>> You could also look at ltt in phytools. The object returned has the time
>> of all the events on the tree - including the end of lineages that go
>> extinct before the present. To access these, you can do:
>>
>> obj<-ltt(tree,plot=FALSE)
>> obj$times
>> obj$ltt
>>
>> & to see how these are associated with events, you can do:
>>
>> plot(obj,show.tree=TRUE)
>>
>> All the best, Liam
>>
>> Liam J. Revell, Associate Professor of Biology
>> University of Massachusetts Boston
>> web: http://faculty.umb.edu/liam.revell/
>> email: liam.rev...@umb.edu
>> blog: http://blog.phytools.org
>>
>> On 1/12/2016 10:22 PM, Dan Rabosky wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Lev-
>>>
>>> I don't think branching.times can compute these for non-ultrametric
>>> trees.
>>>
>>> You can do this with package BAMMtools, but you need a "hidden"
>>> internal function. You can access it as
>>>
>>> "BAMMtools:::NU.branching.times"
>>>
>>> It returns branching times relative to the most recently-occurring tip
>>> in the tree. It's a R-based recursion that is a little slower that the
>>> ape function, so it's not recommended as a replacement for
>>> branching.times if you have an ultrametric tree.
>>>
>>> I'm not actively maintaining laser, but getBtimes returns the output
>>> of branching.times after sorting the times and stripping out the node
>>> names (this was useful for something many years ago!). If you plot
>>> sort(getBtimes(x)) and sort(branching.times(x)) they should be
>>>identical.
>>>
>>> ~Dan Rabosky
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 12, 2016, at 7:37 PM, Yampolsky, Lev <yampo...@mail.etsu.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know what is the difference between ape�s
>>>> branching.times() and laser�s getBtimes()?
>>>> And why they may be giving rather different results, particularly for
>>>> internal branches? (From an ultrametric tree created by
>>>> chronotree <- chronos(tree, lambda = 1, model = "correlated", quiet =
>>>> FALSE, calibration = makeChronosCalib(tree), control =
>>>> chronos.control())
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much in advance for your help!
>>>>
>>>> PS. A related but less important question: I am curious how does
>>>> branching.times() calculate branching times from a non-ultrametric
>>>>tree?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Lev Yampolsky
>>>>
>>>> Professor
>>>> Department of Biological Sciences
>>>> East Tennessee State University
>>>> Box 70703
>>>> Johnson City TN 37614-1710
>>>> Cell 423-676-7489
>>>> Office/lab 423-439-4359
>>>> Fax        423-439-5958
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