On 25.06.2023 09:00, Bernd.Gruber wrote:
Hi,

Thanks for the advice.

Still not 100% sure if that is okay to submit to CRAN.

As mentioned I have new packages that have others in the suggest (and yes the 
examples/tests run fine by making the dependent),

But if I have a package that is not yet on CRAN in the suggest I see that 
running winbuilder.

Suggests or Enhances not in mainstream repositories:
   dartR.sim

If it is not in a mainstream repo, you can declare where users can get it from, see the explanation in the CRAN policies how to declare it.



* checking package namespace information ... OK
* checking package dependencies ... NOTE
Package suggested but not available for checking: 'dartR.sim'

This is OK, once the former is explained.

Best,
Uwe Ligges






Can I explain when I submit that  dartR.sim will be there (as mentioned the 
examples run fine), but obviously is not yet on CRAN.

I assume the same would happen if I put the new packages in Enhances…

Regards, Bernd




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Subject: Re: [R-pkg-devel] Questions regarding a new (seperated package) and 
how to submit them to cran

Dear Bernd,

You could contact the maintainer of the spatstat package. They did the same 
thing (splitting a large package into several smaller ones) a few years ago.

Having the base package suggesting an add-on and the add-on depending on or 
suggesting the base package might create an unwanted loop.

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Op vr 23 jun 2023 om 06:52 schreef Simon Urbanek 
<simon.urba...@r-project.org<mailto:simon.urba...@r-project.org>>:
Bernd,

the sequence in which you submit doesn't matter - the packages have to work 
regardless of the sequence. Suggests means that the dependency is optional, not that 
it can break tests. You have to skip the tests that cannot be run due to missing 
dependencies (see 1.1.3.1<http://1.1.3.1> in R-exts)

Cheers,
Simon



On Jun 23, 2023, at 2:35 PM, Bernd.Gruber 
<bernd.gru...@canberra.edu.au<mailto:bernd.gru...@canberra.edu.au>> wrote:

Hi,

I have a question regarding the separation of a package into smaller pieces (to 
avoid long testing/installation times and more important to avoid to many 
dependencies)

I am the maintainer of an R package (dartR) which has grown and is now at the 
limit in terms of testing/run time and also dependencies. To further develop 
the package we started to break the package into smaller packages namely


Two core packages (dartR.base and dartR.data) and here dartR.base has 
dartR.data in the depends. (dartR.base is 60% of the previous package) and 
dartR.data is our data.package for test data (dartR.data is already on CRAN)




Next to the two core packages we also have 3 more addon packages that deal with 
specialised analysis

dartR.sim
dartR.spatial
dartR.popgenomics.

Those packages depend on dartR.base and dartR.data.

All addon packages and core packages should have the other addon packages as 
suggests, hence here comes the question.


How do I submit the packages?  All of them at once? Or step by step.

If I submit step by step (e.g. dartR.base) it obviously cannot have the other 
dartR addon packages as suggests (cannot be tested and will break the CRAN 
tests).

So would be the correct way to:
Submit dartR.base (without dartR.sim, dartR.spatial and dartR.popgenomics in 
the suggest.)
Then submit dartR.sim, then dartR.spatial and finally dartR.popgenomics (all 
without suggests of the other packages)

And finally update all packages (only their description file and add the 
suggests once they are on CRAN).

Hope that makes sense and thanks in advance,

Bernd


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