On 9/03/2010, at 11:17 AM, Mike Prager wrote: > Rolf Turner <r.tur...@auckland.ac.nz> wrote: >> >> I solved the problem by putting in a colClasses argument in my >> call to read.csv(). But I really think that the read functions >> are being too clever by half here. If field entries are surrounded >> by quotes, shouldn't they be left as character? Even if they are >> all F's and T's? >> >> Furthermore using F's and T's to represent TRUE's and FALSE's is >> bad practice anyway. Since FALSE and TRUE are reserved words it >> would make sense for the read function to assume that a field is >> logical if it consists entirely of these words. But T's and F's >> .... I don't think so. >> >> I would argue that this behaviour should be changed. I can see no >> downside to such a change. >> > > I agree with you, Rolf, that this is horrid behavior. It is such > automatic devices that have made people hate (e.g.) Microsoft > Word with a passion. > > Yet, in R this is a designed-in bug (e.g., feature) that > probably can't be changed without making some legacy code not > work. But at least, T and F could be removed soon as synonms for > TRUE and FALSE. We have seen that "_" was removed as an > assignment operator, and the world did not crumble. The use of T > and F is no less error-prone, and possibly more.
I would definitely support the removal of the use of T and F for TRUE and FALSE. Some code would break, but it would be easy to trace the source of the problem and easy to fix. > > The only immediate solution to this accretion of overly clever > behavior would be for someone to write new functions (say, > Read.csv) that didn't do all those conversions behind the > scenes. I'm not about to do that. Are you? NFL!!! cheers, Rolf ###################################################################### Attention:\ This e-mail message is privileged and confid...{{dropped:9}} ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.