Crossword answers have to be drop-in replacements for the clue in a sentence. Hence replacing "She writes in C and R, say." with "She codes" would work, but "She coder" would not.
(If one interpreted C and R as the names of third party candidates for office, then "She votes" would work, but the across words made "codes" a more reasonable answer.) I was impressed that they expected the typical NYT reader to know that R was a programming language. -Bill On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 11:40 AM <avi.e.gr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Since this is a discussion about a specific crossword puzzle the right > answer has to fit with any words coming in from the other direction or it > gets cross. > > I thought the clue hinted it started with C and ended with R and that the > languages were chosen for no reason other than that they helped make a > clue. It would otherwise be equally valid to choose COBOL and RUST. This > has nothing specific about R, or C, for that matter. Anyone who writes code > for computers in any language can be called a CODER. > > But since CODES and CODER and many other words like PRINT may make sense, > it still can be necessary to have it fit the crossword puzzle. Since it > mentioned R and not it's cousin S, I think CODER is more likely the answer > than CODES. > > Not that it changes our lives in the slightest way. I suspect people who > are dedicated cruciverbalists need not know anything about the C and R > languages or even programming in general. They are supposed to figure out > it is an ODE between C and R. > > -----Original Message----- > From: R-help <r-help-boun...@r-project.org> On Behalf Of Olivier Crouzet > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2024 9:51 AM > To: r-help@r-project.org > Subject: Re: [R] [off-topic] crossword > > Thank you all for the helpful and enlightening comments. One question > though, isn't "say" a synonym in oral forms of american english for > "for example"? Which would translate to: > > > Writes in C or R, [for example]. > > which would involve that C and R are possible examples of the usage > contexts considered here in which someone would "write"? > > This would then make perfect sense to me for the proposed answer: > "codes". > > Yours. > Olivier. > > > On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 > 08:02:32 +0000 CALUM POLWART <polc1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Well to complicate things, I don't think RULES is the answer. > > > > This is a cryptic crossword clue. They usually contain the answer > > twice (well... Cryptically!!) > > > > Writes in C or R, say. > > > > I think the answer is CODER > > > > If you look up the definition of say in the dictionary one option is: > > > > > > > > 1. give instructions to or direct somebody to do something with > > authority (verb) > > > > > > That's the simple part of the clue. (Notice the comma cryptic clues > > have two parts giving the "same" answer) > > > > The more complex part I think is that and 'ode' (a poem that is > > written like it is said or something) is written in between C and R > > giving C ODE R, > > > > ... > > > > > > Very happy to be corrected... > > > > > > (Oh and as a third part a coder writes in C or R... I hope the > > JavaScript kids are listening ;-) ) > > > > On Fri, 13 Dec 2024, 04:26 Ebert,Timothy Aaron, <teb...@ufl.edu> > > wrote: > > > > > I do not understand the question and I do not understand the answer. > > > Possibly one confounds the other. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: R-help <r-help-boun...@r-project.org> On Behalf Of Erin > > > Hodgess Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2024 11:56 AM > > > To: Bill Dunlap <williamwdun...@gmail.com> > > > Cc: r-help@R-project.org > > > Subject: Re: [R] [off-topic] crossword > > > > > > [External Email] > > > > > > RULES! > > > > > > > > > Erin Hodgess, PhD > > > mailto: erinm.hodg...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 9:42 AM Bill Dunlap > > > <williamwdun...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > The New York Times crossword this morning had the clue (51 down, 5 > > > > letters) "Writes in C or R, say". > > > > > > > > -Bill > > > > > > > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > > > R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > > > > https://stat/ > > > > .ethz.ch%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fr-help&data=05%7C02%7Ctebert% > 40ufl.edu > > > > > %7C9366be18e5a944b55dba08dd1acde487%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84 > > > > > %7C0%7C0%7C638696193817496836%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGki > > > > > OnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ > > > > > %3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=hhGilTFwNpgxXeDLO0HS7l4ofoCk%2FXuGhYx3QkuzFj > > > > c%3D&reserved=0 > > > > PLEASE do read the posting guide > > > > https://www/. > > > > r-project.org%2Fposting-guide.html&data=05%7C02%7Ctebert%40ufl.edu > %7C9 > > > > > 366be18e5a944b55dba08dd1acde487%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0 > > > > > %7C0%7C638696193817516516%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRy > > > > > dWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D% > > > > > 3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Z7oKvEwSTzOCNXiMVlYtWtGTg30KADP8F09tQyv3fkA%3D&r > > > > eserved=0 and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, > > > > reproducible code. > > > > > > > > > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > > R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > > > PLEASE do read the posting guide > > > https://www.r-project.org/posting-guide.html > > > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > > ______________________________________________ > > > R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > > > PLEASE do read the posting guide > > > https://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > > > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > > > > > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > > > ______________________________________________ > > R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > > PLEASE do read the posting guide > > https://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, > > minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > > -- > Olivier Crouzet, PhD > http://olivier.ghostinthemachine.space > /Maître de Conférences/ > @LLING - Laboratoire de Linguistique de Nantes > UMR6310 CNRS / Université de Nantes > > ______________________________________________ > R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide > https://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > ______________________________________________ > R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide > https://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide https://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.