I hesitate to say this and stray back on topic. R is basically an extension of C as it was written in C and many added functions end up being rewritten in a variant of C, albeit other languages may at times intrude. Something similar could be said of C-Python.
But I truly doubt the ones making this puzzle know or care. If they eventually want to make some new puzzle, they can search for a list of all programming languages invented and find stuff like here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programming_languages I have studied lots of languages but this list is daunting. It does have quite a few single (or close) character language names the cruciverbalist can use. There was an A+ it seems and a B, and besides C, quite a few variants like C++, C--, C*. C#, and there was a D, and an E, and not only an F but an F# and F*. There was no G but there is a GO, and there is not only a J but a sharp and ++ version, and a K but no L nor even a Noel. There is an M, of sorts and variants and a P and variants and there is a Q. We then get to R and there is also an R++, whatever that is. Given R does not support ++, I wonder. And, of course, an assortment of S, and a T and even a V and oddly an X++ and Z++. So, someone who knows nothing about programming has a number of games they can play just using the list of languages they can search for. R was not chosen as something they had heard of, just as a letter of the alphabet that would help them make a puzzle. Neither, necessarily, was C. All this leads to a question. S was supposed to mean something like Statistics and was not public domain. When R came along as a public language, I thing someone considered it as S-- meaning S sripped of something and obviously that became the letter before S, meaning R. What if we wanted a spin off of R, perhaps a more lightweight version, or one where the Tidyverse was part of the base? The obvious (to maybe just me) idea would be that R-- -> Q, right? But as Q is already taken, it may never happen. -----Original Message----- From: R-help <r-help-boun...@r-project.org> On Behalf Of Erin Hodgess Sent: Friday, December 13, 2024 10:06 AM To: CALUM POLWART <polc1...@gmail.com> Cc: r-help@r-project.org Subject: Re: [R] [off-topic] crossword RULES means that anyone who uses C or R RULES the Universe. They just do. Erin Hodgess, PhD mailto: erinm.hodg...@gmail.com On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 1:02 AM CALUM POLWART <polc1...@gmail.com> wrote: > Well to complicate things, I don't think RULES is the answer. > > This is a cryptic crossword clue. They usually contain the answer twice > (well... Cryptically!!) > > Writes in C or R, say. > > I think the answer is CODER > > If you look up the definition of say in the dictionary one option is: > > > > 1. give instructions to or direct somebody to do something with > authority (verb) > > > That's the simple part of the clue. (Notice the comma cryptic clues have > two parts giving the "same" answer) > > The more complex part I think is that and 'ode' (a poem that is written > like it is said or something) is written in between C and R giving C ODE > R, > > ... > > > Very happy to be corrected... > > > (Oh and as a third part a coder writes in C or R... I hope the JavaScript > kids are listening ;-) ) > > On Fri, 13 Dec 2024, 04:26 Ebert,Timothy Aaron, <teb...@ufl.edu> wrote: > >> I do not understand the question and I do not understand the answer. >> Possibly one confounds the other. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: R-help <r-help-boun...@r-project.org> On Behalf Of Erin Hodgess >> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2024 11:56 AM >> To: Bill Dunlap <williamwdun...@gmail.com> >> Cc: r-help@R-project.org >> Subject: Re: [R] [off-topic] crossword >> >> [External Email] >> >> RULES! >> >> >> Erin Hodgess, PhD >> mailto: erinm.hodg...@gmail.com >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 9:42 AM Bill Dunlap <williamwdun...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > The New York Times crossword this morning had the clue (51 down, 5 >> > letters) "Writes in C or R, say". >> > >> > -Bill >> > >> > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] >> > >> > ______________________________________________ >> > R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see >> > https://stat/ >> > .ethz.ch%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fr-help&data=05%7C02%7Ctebert%40ufl.edu >> > %7C9366be18e5a944b55dba08dd1acde487%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84 >> > %7C0%7C0%7C638696193817496836%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGki >> > OnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ >> > %3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=hhGilTFwNpgxXeDLO0HS7l4ofoCk%2FXuGhYx3QkuzFj >> > c%3D&reserved=0 >> > PLEASE do read the posting guide >> > https://www/. >> > r-project.org%2Fposting-guide.html&data=05%7C02%7Ctebert%40ufl.edu%7C9 >> > 366be18e5a944b55dba08dd1acde487%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0 >> > %7C0%7C638696193817516516%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRy >> > dWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D% >> > 3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Z7oKvEwSTzOCNXiMVlYtWtGTg30KADP8F09tQyv3fkA%3D&r >> > eserved=0 and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible >> > code. >> > >> >> [[alternative HTML version deleted]] >> >> ______________________________________________ >> R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >> PLEASE do read the posting guide >> https://www.r-project.org/posting-guide.html >> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >> ______________________________________________ >> R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >> PLEASE do read the posting guide >> https://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >> > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide https://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide https://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.