There is a whole taskview on CRAN devoted to robust statistics (including 
variants of regression), I would suggest you look through that to see if any of 
those tools work for you.


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Gregory (Greg) L. Snow Ph.D.
Statistical Data Center
Intermountain Healthcare
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Hi Greg,

First of all, many thanks for your detailed response.

I was trying to achieve robustness in the regressions without making any 
assumptions about any transformations that might be needed, as I have no prior 
apart from realised. This seemed like a neat way of doing it, but there may be 
better ones.

Thanks,
Tolga



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It is possible to write a function to do what you describe, but the real 
question is why would you want to do that?

It looks like you are trying to force your data to fit a set of assumptions 
that are not needed.  The normality assumption in regression models is that the 
residuals are normal, or that the y variable is conditionally normal given the 
x-values.  There is no requirement that the raw y-values come from a normal 
distribution.  And even then the normality assumption only applies to specific 
tests and is not needed just to fit the model and the central limit theorem 
applies to those tests, so they are still close approximations even when the 
residuals are not normal.

There is a derivation of the regression equations that assumes that the y 
variable and all the x's are from a multivariate normal distribution, but 
tranforming all the variables to have marginal normal distributions does not 
guarentee that they will be multivariate normal.  And if you are using the 
fixed x formulation (both lead to the same set of equations), then there are no 
assumptions/requirements about the distribution of the x's (other than being 
non-unique).

If you tell us what you are trying to accomplish, we may be able to give better 
advice than to show you down the potentially wrong path.

--
Gregory (Greg) L. Snow Ph.D.
Statistical Data Center
Intermountain Healthcare
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(801) 408-8111



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> Dear R Users,
>
> Are there any packages in R which carries out a normalisation
> to variables as follows:
> - find the empirical distribution function, using perhaps ecdf
> - use the empirical distribution function to transform the
> variables into a series between 0 and 1
> - use this series to map the variables into the normal
> distribution function, using qnorm
> - perform a regression on the transformed variables, which by
> construction will all be normally distributed
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