Hi Greg,

First of all, many thanks for your detailed response.

I was trying to achieve robustness in the regressions without making any 
assumptions about any transformations that might be needed, as I have no 
prior apart from realised. This seemed like a neat way of doing it, but 
there may be better ones.

Thanks,
Tolga




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It is possible to write a function to do what you describe, but the real 
question is why would you want to do that?

It looks like you are trying to force your data to fit a set of 
assumptions that are not needed.  The normality assumption in regression 
models is that the residuals are normal, or that the y variable is 
conditionally normal given the x-values.  There is no requirement that the 
raw y-values come from a normal distribution.  And even then the normality 
assumption only applies to specific tests and is not needed just to fit 
the model and the central limit theorem applies to those tests, so they 
are still close approximations even when the residuals are not normal.

There is a derivation of the regression equations that assumes that the y 
variable and all the x's are from a multivariate normal distribution, but 
tranforming all the variables to have marginal normal distributions does 
not guarentee that they will be multivariate normal.  And if you are using 
the fixed x formulation (both lead to the same set of equations), then 
there are no assumptions/requirements about the distribution of the x's 
(other than being non-unique).

If you tell us what you are trying to accomplish, we may be able to give 
better advice than to show you down the potentially wrong path.

--
Gregory (Greg) L. Snow Ph.D.
Statistical Data Center
Intermountain Healthcare
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> Dear R Users,
>
> Are there any packages in R which carries out a normalisation
> to variables as follows:
> - find the empirical distribution function, using perhaps ecdf
> - use the empirical distribution function to transform the
> variables into a series between 0 and 1
> - use this series to map the variables into the normal
> distribution function, using qnorm
> - perform a regression on the transformed variables, which by
> construction will all be normally distributed
> - return some meaningful statistical test results and even
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> the transformed coefficients back into the original space
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