While the statements below about cox.zph are true, plotting the cox.zph result 
does tell you what the HR is doing. I never use one without the other.

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> On Apr 1, 2021, at 9:00 AM, Bendix Carstensen <bendix.carsten...@regionh.dk> 
> wrote:
> 
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> 
> Further to John Sorkin's post on the cox.zph:
> You get test(s) of whether there is an interaction between a variable, say, 
> sex, and time.
> 
> Suppose it is significant. You will have no clue whether the M/W hazard ratio 
> is increasing or decreasing by time.
> 
> Suppose it is not significant. You will have no clue whether the 
> (non-significant) M/W hazrad ratio exhibits a pattern that is worth looking 
> further into or not.
> 
> In this sense the cox.zph is a perfect tool to allow you to write 'we checked 
> for non proportionality' instead of 'we have no clue of how the M/W ratio 
> varies by time'.
> 
> If you label it what it is, namely a test of interaction, you might realize 
> that you should ESTIMATE the shape and size of the interaction before 
> deriving a test, either ad-hoc by the Shoenfeld residuals or by proper 
> modeling.
> 
> See for example pp 202 ff. in 'Epidemiology with R' by (surprise, surprise) 
> me, published by OUP a few months ago.
> 
> b.r.
> Bendix Carstensen
> Senior Statistician
> Steno Diabetes Center Copenhagen
> Clinical Epidemiology
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> Denmark
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