On May 22, 2013, at 7:44 PM, meng wrote:

> It's not homework.
> I met this question during my practical work via R.
> The boss is an expert of biology,but he doesn't know statistics.So I must 
> find the right method to this work.
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Yes, you must. Unfortunately, the Rhelp mailing list is for problem with R 
coding, but _not_ designed to offer tutorials on the proper education of 
stats-challenged biologists. It is an unfortunate truth that many a physician 
or biologist may rise to a position of authority without a proper grounding in 
statistics. The rectification of those deficiencies is not the stated goal of R 
help.

-- 
David Winsemius, MD, MPH

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> At 2013-05-22 17:30:34,"Uwe Ligges" <lig...@statistik.tu-dortmund.de> wrote:
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> >On 22.05.2013 07:09, meng wrote:
> >> Thanks.
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> >> As to the data " warpbreaks", if I want to analysis the impact of 
> >> tension(L,M,H) on breaks, should I order the tension or not?
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> >No homework questions on this list, please ask your teacher.
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> >Best,
> >Uwe Ligges
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> >> At 2013-05-21 20:55:18,"David Winsemius" <dwinsem...@comcast.net> wrote:
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> >>> On May 20, 2013, at 10:35 PM, meng wrote:
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> >>>> Hi all:
> >>>> If the explainary variables are ordinal,the result of regression is 
> >>>> different from
> >>>> "unordered variables".But I can't understand the result of regression 
> >>>> from "ordered
> >>>> variable".
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> >>>> The data is warpbreaks,which belongs to R.
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> >>>> If I use the "unordered variable"(tension):Levels: L M H
> >>>> The result is easy to understand:
> >>>>     Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(>|t|)
> >>>> (Intercept)    36.39       2.80  12.995  < 2e-16 ***
> >>>> tensionM      -10.00       3.96  -2.525 0.014717 *
> >>>> tensionH      -14.72       3.96  -3.718 0.000501 ***
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> >>>> If I use the "ordered variable"(tension):Levels: L < M < H
> >>>> I don't know how to explain the result:
> >>>>            Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(>|t|)
> >>>> (Intercept)   28.148      1.617  17.410  < 2e-16 ***
> >>>> tension.L    -10.410      2.800  -3.718 0.000501 ***
> >>>> tension.Q      2.155      2.800   0.769 0.445182
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> >>>> What's "tension.L" and "tension.Q" stands for?And how to explain the 
> >>>> result then?
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> >>> Ordered factors are handled by the R regression mechanism with orthogonal 
> >>> polynomial contrasts: ".L" for linear and ".Q" for quadratic. If the term 
> >>> had 4 levels there would also have been a ".C" (cubic) term. Treatment 
> >>> contrasts are used for unordered factors. Generally one would want to do 
> >>> predictions for explanations of the results. Trying to explain the 
> >>> individual coefficient values from polynomial contrasts is similar to and 
> >>> just as unproductive as trying to explain the individual coefficients 
> >>> involving interaction terms.
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> >>> --
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> >>> David Winsemius
> >>> Alameda, CA, USA
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David Winsemius
Alameda, CA, USA

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