Hi AK

I got the gg plots , thanks. All of a sudden I just got it. I didn't even
update packages. Not sure what worked.

Just a basic confusion, to find out if in the association between HiBP and
Obese/Overweight status, to quantify if obese males and obese females run a
different risk of becoming hypertensive, will the gee output of

BP.gee <- gee(HiBP~Obese*
Sex ,data=BPsub3,id=CODEA,family=binomial,
corstr="exchangeable",na.action=na.omit)

suffice?

Cheers.





> >>
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 2:01 PM, arun kirshna [via R] <
ml-node+s789695n4655802...@n4.nabble.com> wrote:

> HI,
>
> In the same link at the bottom of the page,
>
> "
>
> All is well now after updating all packages with the following:
> update.packages()"
>
> It may or may not solve your problem.
>
> I got your attachments.  You should post those questions in ([hidden
> email] <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4655802&i=0>).  I
> suggest you to read lme4 book (http://lme4.r-forge.r-project.org/lMMwR/)
> #lrgprt.pdf
>
> A.K.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: rex2013 <[hidden 
> email]<http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4655802&i=1>>
>
> To: [hidden email] <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4655802&i=2>
> Cc:
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 5:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [R] random effects model
>
> Hi
>
> I tried removing the missing values and installing "plyr". Still error
> message appears with ggplot2
>
> Btw, did you get the attachments with my earlier mail?
>
> Ta.
>
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 3:16 AM, arun kirshna [via R] <
> [hidden email] <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4655802&i=3>>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> > Check these links:
> > http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.r.ggplot2/6527
> > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/ggplot2/nfVjxL0DXnY/5zf50zCeZuMJ
> > A.K.
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Usha Gurunathan <[hidden email]<
> http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4655612&i=0>>
> >
> > To: arun <[hidden email]<
> http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4655612&i=1>>
> >
> > Cc: R help <[hidden email]<
> http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4655612&i=2>>
> >
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 6:31 AM
> > Subject: Re: [R] random effects model
> >
> >
> > Hi AK
> >
> > Got an error message with
> > library(ggplot2) >
> >
> ggplot(BP.stack1,aes(x=factor(HiBP),fill=Obese))+geom_bar(position="fill")
> > Error in rename(x, .base_to_ggplot, warn_missing = FALSE) :  could not
> find
> > function "revalue" >
> >
> ggplot(BP.stack1,aes(x=factor(HiBP),fill=Overweight))+geom_bar(position="fill")
>
> > Error in rename(x, .base_to_ggplot, warn_missing = FALSE) :  could not
> find
> > function "revalue"
> > I got the dot plot, thanks for that.
> >
> > I have attached some plots, not sure how to interpret, they had unusual
> > patterns.Is it because of missing data? I tried removing the missing
> data
> > too. They still appeared the same. Do I need to transform the data?
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 8:54 AM, arun <[hidden email]<
> http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4655612&i=3>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > HI,
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >BP_2b<-read.csv("BP_2b.csv",sep="\t")
> > >BP_2bNM<-na.omit(BP_2b)
> > >
> > >BP.stack3 <-
> >
> reshape(BP_2bNM,idvar="CODEA",timevar="time",sep="",varying=list(c("Obese14","Obese21"),c("Overweight14","Overweight21"),c("hibp14","hibp21")),v.names=c("Obese","Overweight","HiBP"),times=factor(c(1,2)),direction="long")
>
> >
> > >library(car)
> > >BP.stack3$Obese<- recode(BP.stack3$Obese,"1='Obese';0='Not Obese'")
> > >BP.stack3$Overweight<-
> recode(BP.stack3$Overweight,"1='Overweight';0='Not
> > Overweight'")
> > >
> > >library(ggplot2)
> >
> >ggplot(BP.stack3,aes(x=factor(HiBP),fill=Obese))+geom_bar(position="fill")
> >
> >
> >ggplot(BP.stack3,aes(x=factor(HiBP),fill=Overweight))+geom_bar(position="fill")
>
> >
> > >
> > >You could try lmer() from lme4.
> > >library(lme4)
> > >fm1<-lmer(HiBP~time+(1|CODEA), family=binomial,data=BP.stack3) #check
> > codes, not sure
> > >print(dotplot(ranef(fm1,post=TRUE),
> > >              scales = list(x = list(relation = "free")))[[1]])
> > >qmt1<- qqmath(ranef(fm1, postVar=TRUE))
> > >print(qmt1[[1]])
> > >
> > >
> > >A.K.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >________________________________
> > >From: Usha Gurunathan <[hidden email]<
> http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4655612&i=4>>
> >
> > >To: arun <[hidden email]<
> http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4655612&i=5>>
> >
> > >Cc: R help <[hidden email]<
> http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4655612&i=6>>
> >
> > >Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 6:32 AM
> > >
> > >Subject: Re: [R] random effects model
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi AK
> > >
> > >I have been trying to create some plots. All being categorical
> variables,
> > I am not getting any luck with plots. The few ones that have worked are
> > below:
> > >
> > >barchart(~table(HiBP)|Obese,data=BP.sub3) ## BP.sub3 is the stacked
> data
> > without missing values
> > >
> > >barchart(~table(HiBP)|Overweight,data=BP.sub3)
> > >
> >
> >plot(jitter(hibp14,factor=2)~jitter(Obese14,factor=2),col="gray",cex=0.7,
> > data=Copy.of.BP_2)  ## Copy.of.BP_2 is the original wide format
> > >
> > >## not producing any good plots with mixed models as well.
> > >summary(lme.3 <- lme(HiBP~time, data=BP.sub3,random=~1|CODEA,
> > na.action=na.omit))
> > >anova(lme.3)
> > >head(ranef(lme.3))
> > >print(plot(ranef(lme.3))) ##
> > >
> > >Thanks for any help.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:33 AM, arun <[hidden email]<
> http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4655612&i=7>>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>HI,
> > >>
> > >>I think I mentioned to you before that when you reshape the
> > >>columns excluding the response variable, response variable gets
> repeated
> > >>(in this case hibp14 or hibp21) and creates the error"
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>I run your code, there are obvious problems in the code so I didn't
> > reach up to BP.gee
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>BP_2b<-read.csv("BP_2b.csv",sep="\t")
> > >>BP.stack3 <-
> >
> reshape(BP_2b,idvar="CODEA",timevar="time",sep="_",varying=list(c("Obese14","Obese21"),c("Overweight14","Overweight21")),v.names=c("Obese","Overweight"),times=factor(c(1,2)),direction="long")
>
> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>BP.stack3 <-
> >
> transform(BP.stack3,CODEA=factor(CODEA),Sex=factor(Sex,labels=c("Male","Female")),MaternalAge=factor(MaternalAge,labels=c("39years
>
> > or less","40-49 years","50 years or
> > older")),Education=factor(Education,labels=c("Primary/special","Started
> > secondary","Completed grade10", "Completed grade12",
> >
> "College","University")),Birthplace=factor(Birthplace,labels=c("Australia","Other
>
> > English-speaking","Other")))
> > >>
> > >> BP.stack3$Sex <-
> > factor(BP.stack3$Sex,levels=levels(BP.stack3$Sex)[c(2,1)])
> > >>
> > >> BP.sub3a <-  subset(BP.stack3,subset=!(is.na(Sex)| is.na(Education)|
> > is.na(Birthplace)|is.na(Education)|is.na(hibp14)| is.na(hibp21)))
> > >> nrow(BP.sub3a)
> > >>#[1] 3364
> > >> BP.sub5a <- BP.sub3a[order(BP.sub3a$CODEA),] # your code was BP.sub5a
> > <- BP.sub3a[order(BP.sub5a$CODEA),]
> > >>
> > ^^^^^ was not defined before
> > >>#Next line
> > >>BPsub3$Categ[BPsub6$Overweight==1&BPsub3$time==1&BPsub3$Obese==0]<-
> > "Overweight14"  #It should be BP.sub3 and what is BPsub6, it was not
> > defined previously.
> > >>#Error in BPsub3$Categ[BPsub6$Overweight == 1 & BPsub3$time == 1 &
> > BPsub3$Obese ==  :
> > >>  #object 'BPsub3' not found
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>A.K.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>________________________________
> > >>From: Usha Gurunathan <[hidden email]<
> http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4655612&i=8>>
> >
> > >>To: arun <[hidden email]<
> http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4655612&i=9>>
> >
> > >>
> > >>Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 1:51 AM
> > >>
> > >>Subject: Re: [R] random effects model
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>HI AK
> > >>
> > >>Thanks a lot  for explaining that.
> > >>
> > >>1. With the chi sq. ( in order to find out if the diffce is
> significant
> > between groups) do I have create a separate excel file and make a
> > dataframe.How do I go about it?
> > >>
> > >>I have resent a mail to Jun Yan at a difft email ad( first add.didn't
> > work, mail not delivered).
> > >>
> > >>2. With my previous query ( reg. Obese/Overweight/ Normal at age 14 Vs
> > change of blood pressure status at 21), even though I had compromised
> > without the age-specific regression, but I am still keen to explore why
> the
> > age-specific regression didn't work despite it looking okay. I have
> given
> > below the syntax. If you get time, could you kindly look at it and see
> if
> > it could work by any chance? Apologies for persisting with this query.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>BP.stack3 <-
> >
> >>reshape(Copy.of.BP_2,idvar="CODEA",timevar="time",sep="_",varying=list(c("Obese14","Obese21"),c("Overweight14","Overweight21")),v.names=c("Obese","Overweight"),times=factor(c(1,2)),direction="long
>
> >
> > >>BP.stack3
> > >>head(BP.stack3)
> > >>tail(BP.stack3)
> > >>
> > >> names(BP.stack3)[c(2,3,4,5,6,7)] <-
> > >>c("Sex","MaternalAge","Education","Birthplace","AggScore","IntScore")
> > >>
> > >>BP.stack3 <-
> >
> >>transform(BP.stack3,CODEA=factor(CODEA),Sex=factor(Sex,labels=c("Male","Female")),MaternalAge=factor(MaternalAge,labels=c("39years
>
> >
> > >>or less","40-49 years","50 years or
> >
> >>older")),Education=factor(Education,labels=c("Primary/special","Started
> > >>secondary","Completed grade10", "Completed grade12",
> >
> >>"College","University")),Birthplace=factor(Birthplace,labels=c("Australia","Other
>
> >
> > >>English-speaking","Other")))
> > >>
> > >>table(BP.stack3$Sex)
> > >>BP.stack3$Sex <-
> > >>factor(BP.stack3$Sex,levels=levels(BP.stack3$Sex)[c(2,1)])
> > >>
> > >>levels(BP.stack3$Sex)
> > >>BP.sub3a <-  subset(BP.stack3,subset=!(is.na(Sex)| is.na(Education)|
> > is.na(Birthplace)|is.na(Education)|is.na(hibp14)| is.na(hibp21)))
> > >>summary(BP.sub3a)
> > >>BP.sub5a <- BP.sub3a[order(BP.sub5a$CODEA),]
> > >> BPsub3$Categ[BPsub6$Overweight==1&BPsub3$time==1&BPsub3$Obese==0]
> > >><- "Overweight14"
> > >>BPsub3$Categ[BPsub6$Overweight==1&BPsub3$time==2&BPsub3$Obese==0]
> > >><- "Overweight21"
> >
> >>BPsub3$Categ[BPsub3$Obese==1&BPsub3$time==1&BPsub3$Overweight==0|BPsub3$Obese==1&BPsub3$time==1&BPsub3$Overweight==1
>
> >
> > >>] <- "Obese14"
> > >>BPsub3$Categ[BPsub3$Obese==0&BPsub3$time==1&BPsub3
> > BPsub3$Categ[BPsub6$Overweight==1&BPsub3$time==1&BPsub3$Obese==0]
> > >><- "Overweight14"$Overweight==0]
> > >>
> > >><- "Normal14"
> > >>BPsub3$Categ[BPsub3$Obese==0&BPsub3$time==2&BPsub3$Overweight==0]
> > >><- "Normal21"
> >
> >>BPsub3$Categ[BPsub3$Obese==1&BPsub3$time==2&BPsub3$Overweight==0|BPsub3$Obese==1&BPsub3$time==2&BPsub3$Overweight==1]
>
> >
> > >><- "Obese21"
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>BPsub3$Categ <- factor(BPsub3$Categ)
> > >>BPsub3$time <- factor(BPsub3$time)
> > >>summary(BPsub3$Categ)
> > >>BPsub7 <- subset(BPsub6,subset=!(is.na(Categ)))
> > >>BPsub7$time <-
> > >>recode(BPsub7$time,"1=14;2=21")
> > >>BPsub7$hibp14 <- factor(BPsub7$hibp14)
> > >>levels(BPsub7$hibp14)
> > >>levels(BPsub7$Categ)
> > >>names(BPsub7)
> > >>head(BPsub7)    ### this was looking quite okay.
> > >>
> > >>tail(BPsub7)
> > >>str(BPsub7)
> > >>
> > >>library(gee)
> > >>
> > >>BP.gee <- geese(hibp14~ time*Categ,
> > >>data=BPsub7,id=CODEA,family=binomial,
> > >>corstr="exchangeable",na.action=na.omit)
> > >>
> > >>Thanks again.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 1:22 PM, arun <[hidden email]<
> http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4655612&i=10>>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>HI,
> > >>>
> > >>>table(BP_2b$Sex) #original dataset
> > >>>#   1    2
> > >>>#3232 3028
> > >>> nrow(BP_2b)
> > >>>#[1] 6898
> > >>> nrow(BP_2bSexNoMV)
> > >>>#[1] 6260
> > >>> 6898-6260
> > >>>#[1] 638 #these rows were removed from the BP_2b to create
> BP_2bSexNoMV
> > >>>BP_2bSexMale<-BP_2bSexNoMV[BP_2bSexNoMV$Sex=="Male",]
> > >>> nrow(BP_2bSexMale)
> > >>>#[1] 3232
> > >>> nrow(BP_2bSexMale[!complete.cases(BP_2bSexMale),]) #Missing rows
> with
> > Male
> > >>>#[1] 2407
> > >>> nrow(BP_2bSexMale[complete.cases(BP_2bSexMale),]) #Non missing rows
> > with Male
> > >>>#[1] 825
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>You did the chisquare test on the new dataset with 6260 rows, right.
> > >>>I removed those 638 rows because these doesn't belong to either male
> or
> > female, but you want the % of missing value per male or female.  So, I
> > thought this will bias the results.  If you want to include the missing
> > values, you could do it, but I don't know where you would put that
> missing
> > values as it cannot be classified as belonging specifically to males or
> > females.  I hope you understand it.
> > >>>
> > >>>Sometimes, the maintainer's respond a bit slow.  You have to sent an
> > email reminding him again.
> > >>>
> > >>>Regarding the vmv package, you could email Waqas Ahmed Malik ([hidden
> > email] <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4655612&i=11>)
> regarding
> > options for changing the title and the the font etc.
> > >>>You could also use this link (
> > http://www.r-bloggers.com/visualizing-missing-data-2/ ) to plot missing
> > value (?plot.missing()).  I never used that package, but you could try.
> > Looks like it gives more information.
> > >>>
> > >>>A.K.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>________________________________
> > >>>From: Usha Gurunathan <[hidden email]<
> http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4655612&i=12>>
> >
> > >>>To: arun <[hidden email]<
> http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4655612&i=13>>
> >
> > >>>Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:05 PM
> > >>>
> > >>>Subject: Re: [R] random effects model
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Hi A.K
> > >>>
> > >>>So it is number of females missing/total female participants
> enrolled:
> > 72.65%
> > >>>Number of females missing/total (of males+ females)  participants
> > enrolled : 35.14%
> > >>>
> > >>>The total no. with the master data: Males: 3232, females: 3028 ( I
> got
> > this before removing any missing values)
> > >>>
> > >>>with table(Copy.of.BP_2$ Sex)  ## BP
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>If I were to write a table (  and do a chi sq. later),
> > >>>
> > >>>as Gender            Study                    Non study/missing
> > Total
> > >>>      Male              825 (25.53%)             2407 (74.47%)
> > 3232 (100%)
> > >>>    Female           828 (27.35%)             2200 (72.65%)
>  3028
> > ( 100%)
> > >>>     Total              1653                          4607
> >          6260
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>The problem is when I did
> > >>>>colSums(is.na(Copy.of.BP_2), the sex category showed N=638.
> > >>>
> > >>>I cannot understand the discrepancy.Also, when you have mentioned to
> > remove NA, is that not a missing value that needs to be included in the
> > total number missing. I am a bit confused. Can you help?
> > >>>
> > >>>## I tried sending email to gee pack maintainer at the ID with R
> site,
> > mail didn't go through??
> > >>>
> > >>>Many thanks
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 9:17 AM, arun <[hidden email]<
> http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4655612&i=14>>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>Hi,
> > >>>>Yes, you are right.  72.655222% was those missing among females.
> >  35.14377% of values in females are missing from among the whole dataset
> > (combined total of Males+Females data after removing the NAs from the
> > variable "Sex").
> > >>>>
> > >>>>A.K.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>________________________________
> > >>>>From: Usha Gurunathan <[hidden email]<
> http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4655612&i=15>>
> >
> > >>>>To: arun <[hidden email]<
> http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4655612&i=16>>
> >
> > >>>>Cc: R help <[hidden email]<
> http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4655612&i=17>>
> >
> > >>>>Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 5:59 PM
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Subject: Re: [R] random effects model
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Hi AK
> > >>>>That works. I was trying to get  similar results from any other
> > package. Being a beginner, I was not sure how to modify the syntax to
> get
> > my output.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>lapply(split(BP_2bSexNoMV,BP_
> > >>>>2bSexNoMV$Sex),function(x)
> > (nrow(x[!complete.cases(x[,-2]),])/nrow(x))*100) #gives the percentage
> of
> > rows of missing #values from the overall rows for Males and Females
> > >>>>#$Female
> > >>>>#[1] 72.65522
> > >>>>#
> > >>>>#$Male
> > >>>>#[1] 74.47401
> > >>>>
> > >>>>#iF you want the percentage from the total number rows in Males and
> > Females (without NA's in the the Sex column)
> > >>>> lapply(split(BP_2bSexNoMV,BP_2bSexNoMV$Sex),function(x)
> > (nrow(x[!complete.cases(x[,-2]),])/nrow(BP_2bSexNoMV))*100)
> > >>>>#$Female
> > >>>>#[1] 35.14377
> > >>>>#
> > >>>>#$Male
> > >>>>#[1] 38.45048
> > >>>>
> > >>>>How do I interpret the above 2 difft results? 72.66% of values were
> > missing among female participants?? Can you pl. clarify.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Many thanks.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 3:28 AM, arun <[hidden email]<
> http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4655612&i=18>>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>lapply(split(BP_2bSexNoMV,BP_2bSexNoMV$Sex),function(x)
> > (nrow(x[!complete.cases(x[,-2]),])/nrow(x))*100) #gives the percentage
> of
> > rows of missing #values from the overall rows for Males and Females
> > >>>>>#$Female
> > >>>>>#[1] 72.65522
> > >>>>>#
> > >>>>>#$Male
> > >>>>>#[1] 74.47401
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>#iF you want the percentage from the total number rows in Males and
> > Females (without NA's in the the Sex column)
> > >>>>> lapply(split(BP_2bSexNoMV,BP_2bSexNoMV$Sex),function(x)
> > (nrow(x[!complete.cases(x[,-2]),])/nrow(BP_2bSexNoMV))*100)
> > >>>>>#$Female
> > >>>>>#[1] 35.14377
> > >>>>>#
> > >>>>>#$Male
> > >>>>>#[1] 38.45048
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> >
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