Thank you.

What could be a "User Error"? where could I be making a mistake?



I cannot use a lm because my data is not normal, is categorical (count
data). So my first option was Poisson, but had severe overdispersion
problems so I used Binomial Negative as an option.


Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.


Lucas.



2012/3/7 peter dalgaard <pda...@gmail.com>

>
> On Mar 7, 2012, at 15:02 , Lucas wrote:
>
> > Hi Pascal.
> >
> > I applied my analysis in time. I have 25 fire seasons, each season starts
> > on November and ends up on April (our summer)
>
> Hey, why are you worrying about regression coefficients. _Everything_ is
> upside-down at your place... ;-)
>
> > , so I have used them as
> > independent observations. I know that assumption it could be wrong, but
> is
> > the only way I can use the information available.
> >
>
> As a general matter, there are three possibilities
>
> 1) User error
> 2) Method artifact
> 3) Counterintuitive (but true) relation
>
> and you really need to keep the possibility of 3) in mind rather than
> poking around hoping that the counterintuitive signs would go away by
> themselves.
>
> To investigate, I think I would make some stabs that try to get closer to
> the raw data. If you produce a plot showing that the average number of
> fires is increasing with temperature and a model fit with temperature as
> the only predictor apparently shows the opposite, then I'd suspect a user
> error causing coefficients not to mean what you think they mean.
>
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > 2012/3/7 Pascal Oettli <kri...@ymail.com>
> >
> >> Hi Lucas,
> >>
> >> Do you apply your analysis in time or in space?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Pascal
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Mail original -----
> >> De : Lucas <lpchaparro...@gmail.com>
> >> À : r-help@r-project.org
> >> Cc :
> >> Envoyé le : Mercredi 7 mars 2012 22h34
> >> Objet : [R] Problems with generalized linear model (glm) coefficients.
> >>
> >> Hello to everyone.
> >>
> >> I´m writing you because I´m feeling a bit frustrated with my work.
> >>
> >> My work consists in finding  the relation between the amount of fires
> and
> >> the weather, so, my response variable is the amount of fires in a fire
> >> season and the explanatory variables are the temperature, the amount of
> >> precipitation and the some others∑. my problem is this; I keep getting
> the
> >> wrong sign in the coefficients estimated, I get a negative sign for
> >> temperature and a positive sign for precipitation, which is
> unreasonable,
> >> the greater the temperature I would expect more fire, on the contrary,
> the
> >> greater the precipitation I would expect less fires.  So far I have deal
> >> with overdispersion, multicollinearity  and the amount of zeroes through
> >> passing from Poisson to Negative Binomial and Hurdle.  I believe I have
> >> used all my options and still have the wrong signs on my coefficients.
> >>
> >> Do I have more options? What does it mean that I keep getting those
> signs?
> >>
> >> If anyone could help me I would really appreciate it.
> >>
> >> Thank you.
> >>
> >>
> >> Lucas.
> >>
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