Hi Adele,


it was not my intention to critizise you for posting your question. You are totally free to post whatever question you like and the reciepient is then free to answer it or not. I wanted, however, to demonstrate to you that it would have been easier in my opinion to research some of the very nice tutorials available on the internet to answer your question regarding the dev.off() function. I totally did not want to discurage you (or anybody else) from using r-help. It just happens quite often that people post questions where one has the impression that researching documentation or the list archive would have led them to the solution. In such cases (as for example yours) I usually point the poster to these resources.

So, feel totally welcome to use the list for posting all questions you might have. It is then up to the others on the list to decide for themselves whether they want to anwer your question or whether to consider the questnion to be too basic!


Best regards

Jannis

On 05/19/2011 12:16 AM, adele_thomp...@cargill.com wrote:
I've never used an R command without reading the documentation first. I think 
that would be impractical. I am not an expert at deciphering the documentation 
though and I post here because I did in fact read the documentation, do 
extensive google searches, ask friends/collegues and still find no answer. This 
forum is not a first resort for me. There is a very bad rep of R forums being 
notoriously harsh on new comers. I myself do not like when people do not try. 
In order to avoid this harshness (I have not found this forum any more harsh 
than your everyday educated R user), I do my own research and ask a question 
when I get stuck. I realize that people still are upset by my ignorance and 
that is their choice. I will get better and better at R and less and less 
likely to run into any of these issues. I am not a programmer or statistician 
by trade, but I am a learner and thus will continue to improve.

You have not offended me at all as few people have this ability.
Thank you for your help.

Adele

-----Original Message-----
From: bt_jan...@yahoo.de [mailto:bt_jan...@yahoo.de]
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 04:53 PM
To: Thompson, Adele - adele_thomp...@cargill.com
Cc: r-help@r-project.org
Subject: Re: [R] Plots: I've deleted axes, now to delete space

On 05/16/2011 06:18 PM, adele_thomp...@cargill.com wrote:
Re-sizing within the dev command works well. I'm not sure why I would need the 
dev.off(). I have the plot commands run. Then I have the dev.copy2pdf command.
Thanks again for your help.

Well, you really should get into the habit of reading the documentation
of each of the commands you use. To get familiar with the concept of
graphics in R (and to answer your question regarding  def.off()) I would
recommend having a look at some basic textbook about R or one of the
many tutorials on R available on the web. (googeling "graphics R" gives
you a really helpful link with the third entry!)

The answer to your question basicly is that you need to tell R that your
figure is finished (by running def.off() ). Then R can create the file.
Usually figures are created by a sequence of calls so "R" itself can
never now whether it would be necessary to add some elements to the plot
later or not.

Sorry for beeing a bit harsh, but quite often many of the questions here
on the list can be easily answered by searching documentation, the web
or getting familiar with the basic R concepts!


HTH
Jannis





-----Original Message-----
From: greg.s...@imail.org [mailto:greg.s...@imail.org]
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 11:11 AM
To: Thompson, Adele - adele_thomp...@cargill.com; r-help@r-project.org
Subject: RE: [R] Plots: I've deleted axes, now to delete space

If your goal is to end up with a pdf file, then I would suggest creating the 
pdf file directly using the pdf function (you can specify height and width in 
the function) then run your commands to create the plot and use dev.off() to 
finish.

You often get different results when writing directly to a file vs doing one of 
the dev.copy because of some different settings.  In general the dev.copy 
approach can be a quick and easy solution for a simple graph, but plotting 
directly to the file tends to work better if you want a quality graph in the 
file.

-----Original Message-----
From: r-help-boun...@r-project.org [mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org] On 
Behalf Of Schatzi
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 8:41 AM
To: r-help@r-project.org
Subject: Re: [R] Plots: I've deleted axes, now to delete space

I am outputting the plot to a pdf file using the code:
dev.copy2pdf(file="testing.pdf")

The plots are too small though unless I first manually increase the size in
R and then use the dev.copy command. Is there a way to automatically
increase the window size? I tried fin and din, but those do not seem to work
or they only increase the size to a certain degree, even though I can
manually increase it to fill my screen.


Schatzi wrote:
Thanks all for the replies. I am getting better slowly but surely. I
imagine that I will get better at figuring out things as well so I don't
have to post as many questions. I do lots of searches, but still cannot
figure out how to do everything that I need.

The new code is as such:
par(mfrow=c(4,7), mar=c(2, 2, 2, 1.5), oma=c(1, 1, 4, 0))
for (i in 1:28) {
a<-seq(1,3,1)
plot(a,a, ann=FALSE, main= "plot of a vs a")
}
mtext("Plot of a vs a",side=3,outer=TRUE)


-----Original Message-----
From: murdoch.dun...@gmail.com [mailto:murdoch.dun...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 03:25 PM
To: Thompson, Adele - adele_thomp...@cargill.com
Cc: greg.s...@imail.org; r-help@r-project.org
Subject: Re: [R] Plots: I've deleted axes, now to delete space

On 11-05-13 4:21 PM, adele_thomp...@cargill.com wrote:
Easy fix. Under ?par, I don't see where I can enter an overall title.
Should I add a text command or something?
mtext() writes text in the margins; argument "outer" puts it in the
outer margins.

Duncan Murdoch

-----Original Message-----
From: greg.s...@imail.org [mailto:greg.s...@imail.org]
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 03:17 PM
To: Thompson, Adele - adele_thomp...@cargill.com; r-help@r-project.org
Subject: RE: [R] Plots: I've deleted axes, now to delete space

Look at the help for par, specifically the section on 'mar' to set the
per plot margins smaller and the section on 'oma' to leave room for the
overall title.

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