I've never used an R command without reading the documentation first. I think 
that would be impractical. I am not an expert at deciphering the documentation 
though and I post here because I did in fact read the documentation, do 
extensive google searches, ask friends/collegues and still find no answer. This 
forum is not a first resort for me. There is a very bad rep of R forums being 
notoriously harsh on new comers. I myself do not like when people do not try. 
In order to avoid this harshness (I have not found this forum any more harsh 
than your everyday educated R user), I do my own research and ask a question 
when I get stuck. I realize that people still are upset by my ignorance and 
that is their choice. I will get better and better at R and less and less 
likely to run into any of these issues. I am not a programmer or statistician 
by trade, but I am a learner and thus will continue to improve.

You have not offended me at all as few people have this ability.
Thank you for your help.

Adele

-----Original Message-----
From: bt_jan...@yahoo.de [mailto:bt_jan...@yahoo.de] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 04:53 PM
To: Thompson, Adele - adele_thomp...@cargill.com
Cc: r-help@r-project.org
Subject: Re: [R] Plots: I've deleted axes, now to delete space

On 05/16/2011 06:18 PM, adele_thomp...@cargill.com wrote:
> Re-sizing within the dev command works well. I'm not sure why I would need 
> the dev.off(). I have the plot commands run. Then I have the dev.copy2pdf 
> command.
> Thanks again for your help.
>

Well, you really should get into the habit of reading the documentation 
of each of the commands you use. To get familiar with the concept of 
graphics in R (and to answer your question regarding  def.off()) I would 
recommend having a look at some basic textbook about R or one of the 
many tutorials on R available on the web. (googeling "graphics R" gives 
you a really helpful link with the third entry!)

The answer to your question basicly is that you need to tell R that your 
figure is finished (by running def.off() ). Then R can create the file. 
Usually figures are created by a sequence of calls so "R" itself can 
never now whether it would be necessary to add some elements to the plot 
later or not.

Sorry for beeing a bit harsh, but quite often many of the questions here 
on the list can be easily answered by searching documentation, the web 
or getting familiar with the basic R concepts!


HTH
Jannis





> -----Original Message-----
> From: greg.s...@imail.org [mailto:greg.s...@imail.org]
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 11:11 AM
> To: Thompson, Adele - adele_thomp...@cargill.com; r-help@r-project.org
> Subject: RE: [R] Plots: I've deleted axes, now to delete space
>
> If your goal is to end up with a pdf file, then I would suggest creating the 
> pdf file directly using the pdf function (you can specify height and width in 
> the function) then run your commands to create the plot and use dev.off() to 
> finish.
>
> You often get different results when writing directly to a file vs doing one 
> of the dev.copy because of some different settings.  In general the dev.copy 
> approach can be a quick and easy solution for a simple graph, but plotting 
> directly to the file tends to work better if you want a quality graph in the 
> file.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: r-help-boun...@r-project.org [mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org] On 
> Behalf Of Schatzi
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 8:41 AM
> To: r-help@r-project.org
> Subject: Re: [R] Plots: I've deleted axes, now to delete space
>
> I am outputting the plot to a pdf file using the code:
> dev.copy2pdf(file="testing.pdf")
>
> The plots are too small though unless I first manually increase the size in
> R and then use the dev.copy command. Is there a way to automatically
> increase the window size? I tried fin and din, but those do not seem to work
> or they only increase the size to a certain degree, even though I can
> manually increase it to fill my screen.
>
>
> Schatzi wrote:
>> Thanks all for the replies. I am getting better slowly but surely. I
>> imagine that I will get better at figuring out things as well so I don't
>> have to post as many questions. I do lots of searches, but still cannot
>> figure out how to do everything that I need.
>>
>> The new code is as such:
>> par(mfrow=c(4,7), mar=c(2, 2, 2, 1.5), oma=c(1, 1, 4, 0))
>> for (i in 1:28) {
>> a<-seq(1,3,1)
>> plot(a,a, ann=FALSE, main= "plot of a vs a")
>> }
>> mtext("Plot of a vs a",side=3,outer=TRUE)
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: murdoch.dun...@gmail.com [mailto:murdoch.dun...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 03:25 PM
>> To: Thompson, Adele - adele_thomp...@cargill.com
>> Cc: greg.s...@imail.org; r-help@r-project.org
>> Subject: Re: [R] Plots: I've deleted axes, now to delete space
>>
>> On 11-05-13 4:21 PM, adele_thomp...@cargill.com wrote:
>>> Easy fix. Under ?par, I don't see where I can enter an overall title.
>>> Should I add a text command or something?
>> mtext() writes text in the margins; argument "outer" puts it in the
>> outer margins.
>>
>> Duncan Murdoch
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: greg.s...@imail.org [mailto:greg.s...@imail.org]
>>> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 03:17 PM
>>> To: Thompson, Adele - adele_thomp...@cargill.com; r-help@r-project.org
>>> Subject: RE: [R] Plots: I've deleted axes, now to delete space
>>>
>>> Look at the help for par, specifically the section on 'mar' to set the
>>> per plot margins smaller and the section on 'oma' to leave room for the
>>> overall title.
>>>
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