I won't be making the transition. Bye
On Thu, Apr 4, 2024, 14:06 chris hermansen via QGIS-User < qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org> wrote: > Régis and everyone else, > > My apologies; I try not to top post but my response is more an overall > reaction to your announcement rather than a point by point response. > > I was a member (??) over at opensource.com's Discourse instance until > RedHat decided to shut down support for opensource.com, so I have some > experience with that Discourse configuration, also plenty of experience > with mailing lists. Also familiarity with the Ubuntu Forums, Stack > Exchange etc. > > In my experience, Discourse "out of the box" doesn't offer any net benefit > to its users. > > It's quite possible that people interested in, and willing to invest time > and effort into customizing their usage profile would benefit more from > Discourse than from a mailing list. I have no experience with that. > > You may be correct when you say that we will attract more new users by > offering them Discourse than by maintaining a mailing list. I guess the > question that begs to be asked is, will those new users thereby turn into > contributors, or will the biggest Discourse channel be "how do I install > QGIS on my new Mac"? > > I suppose, perhaps wrongly, that most of us on this (and other) mailing > lists are here because the list provides a sense of community, an > opportunity to pay back by offering a bit of help, an opportunity to > stumble on something new and useful from time to time... what else? I'm > pretty sure none of us participate in this list to learn how to participate > effectively in lists. Moreover, we don't really have the tools to "only > pay attention to topics X, Y and Z". So all of us get to see the beginner > questions, and the responses, and sometimes we find ourselves in the > situation of starting fresh with something that, because of this broad > familiarity, is not a total blank. > > In contrast, in my experience, moving to Discourse, or any other similar > forum-type structure, allows or even encourages us to stick to certain > topics that we think may be of interest and avoid all others. > > I would argue that we thereby cheapen and diminish our contribution back > to the forum, simply because we miss real opportunities to help while we > avoid reading certain topics; and by doing so, we reduce the sense of > community we get by belonging to the list. I would further argue that we > run the risk of not learning many new things because by streaming topics > into tens or hundreds of specialist channels, we inevitably miss things > that might benefit us. > > Finally, we have the "opportunity" to spend more of our limited time > learning about configuring our participation in this mechanism, rather than > just participating. Your example of learning how to treat Discourse like a > mailing list by following the Mozilla tutorial addresses this situation > precisely - instead of helping a person with their configuration issues, or > learning more about how to structure the queries used in QGIS, we are > tweaking the Discourse knobs and levers to get the "optimum" experience. > > I guess you can tell that I'm negative on this concept. I don't feel that > the mailing list is a be-all and end-all. But I am pretty sure, again > based on my experience, that the lovely community we have here on > qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org will not be the same collection of good things > once migrated to Discourse. I do hope that I am wrong! > > On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 7:04 AM Régis Haubourg via QGIS-User < > qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org> wrote: > >> [Message sent to all QGIS's lists. Sorry for crossposting - **please >> reply only in PSC list** ] >> [stuff deleted] >> >> >> Any thought from you is more than welcome, from ranting against modernity >> to thanking SAC for their hard work. >> > And thank you, SAC, for your hard work! > > -- > Chris Hermansen · clhermansen "at" gmail "dot" com > > C'est ma façon de parler. > _______________________________________________ > QGIS-User mailing list > QGIS-User@lists.osgeo.org > List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >
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