On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 08:35:13AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 04:05:33PM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 01:19:41PM -0400, John Snow wrote: > > > On 9/23/19 10:50 AM, Cleber Rosa wrote: > > [...] > > > >> diff --git a/tests/docker/dockerfiles/debian-xtensa-cross.docker > > > >> b/tests/docker/dockerfiles/debian-xtensa-cross.docker > > > >> index b9c2e2e531..e6f93f65ee 100644 > > > >> --- a/tests/docker/dockerfiles/debian-xtensa-cross.docker > > > >> +++ b/tests/docker/dockerfiles/debian-xtensa-cross.docker > > > >> @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@ RUN apt-get update && \ > > > >> flex \ > > > >> gettext \ > > > >> git \ > > > >> - python-minimal > > > >> + python3-minimal > > > > > > > > I'm getting Python 3.5.3-1+deb9u1 here, so it LGTM. > > > > > > > > > > Oh, that's actually a bit of a problem. I tested on 3.5+, but I think > > > some people want 3.6+. > > > > > > I don't know much about Debian, but we either need to guarantee 3.6+ or > > > backtrack our plans to 3.5+. > > > > Good catch. I forgot we were going to keep 3.5 support because > > of Debian 9. > > > > Now, I'd like to clarify what the wording on our supported build > > platforms documentation is supposed to mean for Debian. > > > > The document says: > > > > ] For distributions with frequent, short-lifetime releases, the project will > > ] aim to support all versions that are not end of life by their respective > > ] vendors. For the purposes of identifying supported software versions, the > > ] project will look at Fedora, Ubuntu, and openSUSE distros. Other short- > > ] lifetime distros will be assumed to ship similar software versions. > > ] > > ] For distributions with long-lifetime releases, the project will aim to > > support > > ] the most recent major version at all times. Support for the previous major > > ] version will be dropped 2 years after the new major version is released. > > For > > ] the purposes of identifying supported software versions, the project will > > look > > ] at RHEL, Debian, Ubuntu LTS, and SLES distros. Other long-lifetime > > distros will > > ] be assumed to ship similar software versions. > > > > Debian 10 was released in July 2019. Are we really willing to > > support Debian 9 as a supported build platform until July 2021? > > The Debian Project itself won't support Debian 9 after July 2020. > > This is an oversight on my part - I didn't realize Debian releases > were supported for such a short time in parallel. > > There should be a general statement that, no matter what else the > policy states, we do *NOT* support any distro that has been end of > life by its vendor. > > > Even for other long-lifetime distros, I really think "2 years > > after the new major version is released" is too long, and I'd > > like to shorten this to 1 year. > > I guess this is ok, since this. is still quite a long life time of > support for distros. eg RHEL has a 3-4 year gap between major > releases, that gives 4-5 years for each release being supported by > QEMU. Other LTS distros are similar
Having said that, in the past we did have some pushback from people who were staying on Ubuntu LTS releases for quite a long time, which influenced the decision to have a 2 year overlap. In practice that hopefully isn't too big a problem, as support for the other LTS distros probably means Ubuntu LTS will work ok regardless for 2 releases. Regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :|