Hi Eric,

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> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2025 1:13 PM
> To: Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
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> Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 05/20] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Associate a pxb-
> pcie bus
> 
> Hi Shameer,
> 
> On 3/24/25 9:19 AM, Shameerali Kolothum Thodi wrote:
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Nicolin Chen <nicol...@nvidia.com>
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2025 5:03 PM
> >> To: Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
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> >> Cc: Donald Dutile <ddut...@redhat.com>; qemu-...@nongnu.org;
> qemu-
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> >> jiangkunkun <jiangkun...@huawei.com>; Jonathan Cameron
> >> <jonathan.came...@huawei.com>; zhangfei....@linaro.org
> >> Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 05/20] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Associate a
> pxb-
> >> pcie bus
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 09:26:29AM +0000, Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
> >> wrote:
> >>> Having said that,  current code only allows pxb-pcie root complexes
> >> avoiding
> >>> the pcie.0. The idea behind this was, user can use pcie.0 with a non
> accel
> >> SMMUv3
> >>> for any emulated devices avoiding the performance bottlenecks we are
> >>> discussing for emulated dev+smmuv3-accel cases. But based on the
> >> feedback from
> >>> Eric and Daniel I will relax that restriction and will allow association
> with
> >> pcie.0.
> >>
> >> Just want a clarification here..
> >>
> >> If VM has a passthrough device only:
> >>  attach it to PCIE.0 <=> vSMMU0 (accel=on)
> > Yes. Basically support accel=on to pcie.0 as well.
> 
> agreed we shall be able to instantiate the accelerated SMMU on pcie.0 too.
> >
> >> If VM has an emulated device and a passthrough device:
> >>  attach the emulated device to PCIE.0 <=> vSMMU bypass (or accel=off?)
> >>  attach the passthrough device to pxb-pcie <=> vSMMU0 (accel=on)
> > This can be other way around as well:
> > ie,
> > pass-through to pcie.0(accel=on) and emulated to any other pxb-pcie with
> accel = off.
> +1
> >
> > I think the way bus numbers are allocated in Qemu for pcie.0 and pxb-
> pcie allows
> > us to support this in IORT ID maps.
> One trouble we may get into is possible bus reordering by the guest. I
> don't know the details but I remember that in certain conditions the
> guest can reorder the bus numbers.

Yeah, Guest kernel can re-enumerate PCIe. I will check.
 
> Besides what I don't get in the above discussion, related to whether the
> accelerated mode can also sipport emulated devices, is that if you use
> the originally suggested hierarchy (pxb-pcie + root port + VFIO device)
> you eventually get on guest side 2 devices protected by the SMMU
> instance: the root port and the VFIO device. They end up in different
> iommu groups. So there is already a mix of emulated and VFIO device.

True. But I guess the root port associated activity(invalidations etc) will be
very minimal(or nil?) compared to a virtio device.

Thanks,
Shameer



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