On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 04:04:20PM +0100, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote: > On 6/2/25 15:31, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 02:53:58PM +0100, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote: > > > Hi Daniel, > > > > > > On 6/2/25 14:20, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > > > On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 02:10:47PM +0100, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote: > > > > > Introduce an abstract machine parent class which defines > > > > > the 'little_endian' property. Duplicate the current machine, > > > > > which endian is tied to the binary endianness, to one big > > > > > endian and a little endian machine; updating the machine > > > > > description. Keep the current default machine for each binary. > > > > > > > > > > 'petalogix-s3adsp1800' machine is aliased as: > > > > > - 'petalogix-s3adsp1800-be' on big-endian binary, > > > > > - 'petalogix-s3adsp1800-le' on little-endian one. > > > > > > > > Does it makes sense to expose these as different machine types ? > > > > > > > > If all the HW is identical in both cases, it feels like the > > > > endianness could just be a bool property of the machine type, > > > > rather than a new machine type. > > > > > > Our test suites expect "qemu-system-foo -M bar" to work out of > > > the box, we can not have non-default properties. > > > > > > (This is related to the raspberry pi discussion in > > > https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20250204002240.97830-1-phi...@linaro.org/). > > > > > > My plan is to deprecate 'petalogix-s3adsp1800', so once we > > > remove it we can merge both qemu-system-microblaze and > > > qemu-system-microblazeel into a single binary. > > > > > > If you don't want to add more machines, what should be the > > > endianness of the 'petalogix-s3adsp1800' machine in a binary > > > with no particular endianness? Either we add for explicit > > > endianness (fixing test suites) or we add one machine for > > > each endianness; I fail to see other options not too > > > confusing for our users. > > > > We would pick an arbitrary endianness of our choosing > > I guess. How does this work in physical machines ? Is > > the choice of endianess a firmware setting, or a choice > > by the vendor when manufacturing in some way ? > > Like MIPS*, SH4* and Xtensa*, it is a jumper on the board > (wired to a CPU pin which is sampled once at cold reset).
That makes me thing even more it is just a machine type property. None the less, since you've already taken this pattern of dual machine types for BE & LE on MIPS/SH4/XTensa, I think we should stick with your precedent. Consistent modelling of endian handling across all machine types is most important IMHO With regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :|