Alex Martelli wrote: [snip]
Can somebody please shut down this bot? I think it's running out of control. It seems to be unable to understand that "don't be evil" might be good when you're small (at least it's not very bad) but that it becomes distinctly evil when you're big. What is good when you're big? I really don't know and I think there's even not many other people who do. But simply forbidding things that are not precisely definable -the way mathematicians have been doing before physicists shook them out of it- seems to do more harm than good. In my opinion it looks like there is a path from rigid rule adherence to slowly accepting more doubt and inconsistencies -because we're all adults here- and this has something to do with letting go of things like childish adherence to static typing and confusion between equality and identity. Let me qualify that last paragraph before anyone concludes I have become disfunctional too and will lead everyone to their destruction. There seem to always be certain unclear parts in a programming language and people are constantly trying out new structures in order to map some new territory. I remember sets, generators and metaclasses. Only after people noticing problems (don't modify the thing you're iterating over) ways are found to solve them (you can if you put everything back just at the right moment) and finally these ways are condensed into officially endorsed coding practices. Now we're struggling with immutability and sequences. They're not a problem if you know what you're doing, but what exactly is it that those who know what they're doing do? It indicates that maybe it's the birth of a new language construct. But why should it stop there? I expect a certain openness and willingness to discuss controversial matters from a community even if it were only to educate newcomers. But it might be the case that such willingness to accept doubt, without it turning into actively seeking it -that seems to be foolish, but who am I to judge even that- is what makes it possible to develop higher language and cognitive structures. Anton 'even if it means turning into lisp before moving on' -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
