Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> http://beta.python.org
> In particular, creating a good-looking design that remains readable in > all possible browser configurations is impossible. Getting one that is > readable in all reasonable browser configurations is hard, unless you > make your definition of "reasonable" very narrow. Nah, it's very simple, if you can let go of the wrong-headed notion that the web is just like print media. Of course that means you're unlikely to win any design awards, or even get a lot of commecnts about how spiffy your web site looks, because all the design geeks will judge you by the inapproriate standards of print media. You may, however, get pats on the back from people who actually use the site, and appreciate a readable, logical layout far more than design school gloss (and fonts too small to be easily read by many; no, Aahz, IMO your solution throws out far too much along with the bath water, though I have to agree that the font size problem vanishes if one uses a text-mode browser <grin>). >From a quick look, the beta appears to commit the same error as every design (as opposed to usability) driven web site in the world: it makes the running text smaller than the user's default. It's as if they care more about how it looks than whether I can read it (as far as I can tell, that's exactly the case, though it may just be that few are willing to admit that the designs that they've learned to make, and that do work well in high-resolution print, just suck on the web where a high resolution screen is coarser than a bad fax. bad artists, the lot of them, who persist in ignoring the characteristics of the medium they're working in). It's otherwise nice, and I didn't see any problems with overlapping texts (in Firefox, etc.) at any halfway reasonable window size, but perhaps that was corrected already. The name of the city in Sweden is mangled in every encoding I've tried - the headline is proper UTF-8, but the mention in the paragraph is weird. -- In high-resolution print typography, designers enjoy considerable freedom and control over the articulation of this [font size] range. In low-resolution screen typography, designers don't. -- Todd Fahrner -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list