I have been using vi/vim for a very long time and love it(now using ion3 + vim, not even gvim on debian), but never found it blend well with the Windows GUI.
Sybren Stuvel wrote: > Claudio Grondi enlightened us with: > > The file I was editing was just 22 KByte large having 450 lines, so > > you try here to explain to me, that for speed reasons Vim has to cut > > it into pieces? > > Yep. > > > Stani SPE based on Scintilla does it right, UltraEdit does it right, > > Wing does it right, so what, are we now on a 1 MHz computer with 128 > > KByte of memory for all the system and program files what would make > > such approach necessary? > > I'm giving you the reason why syntax highlighting in VIM doesn't > always do what you expect. I never said it wasn't a silly reason. > Having said that, A quick Ctrl+L usually fixes this for me. > > >> Wrong. I have used Vim for years, and only found a few minor > >> issues, nothing more. > > Let us know about them, so that we know it too. > > Syntax highlighting is awfully slow on files with very long lines. > That's the only thing I can think of now. And it's fixed in the > upcoming VIM 7. > > > But this is what I have experienced. Are you on a *nix system? > > Yep. > > > I speak here about Microsoft Windows XP SP 2 on a 3GByte RAM > > equipped Pentium 4 and Cream-Vim installed > > I use Vim and GVim, on a 1.25 GB RAM equipped AthlonXP, on Ubuntu > Linux. > > > But is does not work out of the box for me with the download I have > > mentioned and I was not able to fix it as I tried. > > That's probably because when you install Vim in Windows, it changes > key settings to be more appropriate for Windows. Rip those > Win32-compatability crap out of your .vimrc (or is it called _vimrc > there?) so you can use all the keys everybody else can. > > > Yes, I see your point, but with the increasing speed of the hardware > > and better software quality it is now possible to choose tools which > > are easy to use and don't have a steep learning curve. > > True. I find Vim very easy to use, and it didn't take me long to learn > it. It does help if you're on a platform which supplies 'vimtutor' > along with vim, and doesn't mangle the keybindings, though. > > > I am used to Microsoft Windows way of designing user interfaces, so > > I expect software running on Windows to provide what I am used to. > > LOL don't get me started on the Microsoft way in combination with my > expectations... > > > The times where the user had to adopt to the software are over. > > You're very wrong there. Users have to adopt to the software, unless > they write their own. You also have to adopt to all sort of things in > your life, so what's the big issue with software? > > To give you a few examples: I live in The Netherlands, so I buy cars > with the steering wheel on the left. I have to use that, no matter > what I want - unless I take the effort to import a car from abroad. I > have to screw to the right to get a screw inside a piece of wood. I > have to adopt to that. That's the way things work. > > > Now there are all preconditions available making it possible to > > adopt the software to the user. > > And most users get afraid of all those options they can set and all > those things they can tweak to get the software to adopt to their > whishes. > > > What other editing tools have you already evaluated? I tried as many > > as possible including Vim before I decided to spend money on > > purchasing UltraEdit and inspite of the fact, that there are so many > > new editors there, I still see no chance to replace UltraEdit with > > any other editing tool > > I've tried UltraEdit, didn't like it, went back to Vim. Same with > other editors. I don't like the way I get popups in UE when I want to > search or replace something. I haven't tested this, but I haven't seen > a way to re-wrap text like Vim can - even in this post it can rewrap > your text without messing up the '>' symbols in front of it. It can > even rewrap comments, strings etc. in source code without messing up > indentation or marker characters. > > > Just evaluate yourself at least SPE and Wing and come back to tell > > here about your experience comparing them to Vim > > I'll see if I can get around to it. I'm very busy atm, but I'm busy > doing Python programming, so perhaps I can do some with the IDEs you > mentioned. > > Hmm... neither are bundled with Ubuntu. > > SPE is already annoying because of all the new windows it opens... Not > a good start. I remember using it before, to check out the Blender > integration. Unfortunately, that didn't work. I'll give it another go. > > WingIDE is commercial software, which I'm not going to use. I'm not > all against commercial software, but if there is a Free alternative, > I'd rather use that. > > Sybren > -- > The problem with the world is stupidity. Not saying there should be a > capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the > safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? > Frank Zappa -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
