> On 15 May 2023, at 05:39, Thomas Passin <li...@tompassin.net> wrote:
> 
> On 5/14/2023 11:08 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> On Mon, 15 May 2023 at 12:07, Thomas Passin <li...@tompassin.net> wrote:
>>> Well, no, why would you assume that?  I started to use Linux - in VMs -
>>> because I had to make sure that my cross-platform java/jython Tomcat
>>> program would work right on Linux.  Why, for example, would I think to
>>> install Idle from the package manager when it, or things like that, were
>>> always in my experience installed with pip? For that matter, "sudo
>>> apt-get install pip" won't install pip.  You need to use a different
>>> name, and it may or may not be different for different distros.
>> If you EVER had to install something other than a Python package, you
>> would have had to make use of the system package manager. You're
>> right, there are multiple obvious ways to install Idle, but that
>> doesn't mean that the package manager isn't one of them.
> 
> Yes, after a while I came to realize that missing Python pieces might be 
> available from the package manager.  That doesn't mean it's obvious, or easy 
> to discover just what names to use.  And sometimes one has to add a new 
> external repository.  Personally, I don't find it easy to scroll through 
> hundreds of lines in the synaptics search results looking for something whose 
> name I can only partly guess at.  If I know the command line equivalent for a 
> search, I could do a grep and that would probably be more focused.  But 
> trying to work with a dozen different distros because various clients might 
> use them - it's hard to keep details straight.
> 
> Anyway, there's no point in trying to convince me that I could have 
> understood everything at the start that I may have learned later.  I'm just 
> interested in passing on things I've learned along that way that a newcomer 
> to Python in Linux may not realize.

Being a Fedora user i needed to learn how to install missing pieces of pyrhon 
on ubuntu.

We searches for:
ubuntu install pip
Ubuntu install idle

Both provide lots of answers. Did your searches fail to turn up answers?

Barry


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