On 2021-09-10 12:26:24 +0100, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote: > On 10/09/2021 00:47, Terry Reedy wrote: > > even one loop is guaranteed.) "do-while" or "repeat-until is even rarer > > since fractional-loop include this as a special case. > > Is there any empirical evidence to support this? > Or is it just a case of using the tools that are available? > In my experience of using Pascal (and much later with Delphi) > that I used repeat loops at least as often as while loops, > possibly more. > > But using Python and to a lesser extent C (which has a > rather horrible do/while) construct
How is C's do/while loop more horrible than Pascal's repeat/until? They seem almost exactly the same to me (the differences I see are the inverted condition (debatable which is better) and the added block delimiters (which I actually like)). > So is it the case that the "need" for repeat loops is > rare, simply a result of there being no native repeat > loop available? A tiny non-representative data point: In an old collection of small C programs of mine I find: 35 regular for loops 28 while loops 2 infinite for loops 1 "infinite" for loop (i.e. it exits somewhere in the middle) 0 do/while loops. So even though do/while loops are available in C (and I don't find them horrible) I apparently found very little use for them (I'm sure if I look through more of my C programs I'll find a few examples, but this small samples shows they are rare. hp -- _ | Peter J. Holzer | Story must make more sense than reality. |_|_) | | | | | h...@hjp.at | -- Charles Stross, "Creative writing __/ | http://www.hjp.at/ | challenge!"
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