Michael, > You said it by implication. > > quote: "And as I do not think the designers of the language where that > stupid I must therefore reject your claim to what you think happens."
I suggest you try reading that again, and imagine it being two centences, the first ending after "stupid" and the second starting with the folowing "I". The first is a reasoning to the rejecting in the second. Nothing more, nothing less. > Since the language does behave as Chris described (calling __del__ > does not always happen when you want or think it does No, it doesn't (I described a testprogram that contradicted it a number of messages back). And trying to play of /exceptions of the rule/ as the only thing that matters is simply disingenious. But, feel free to post an example or just a link to supporting your/Chris claim. > You can imply that I'm stupid all you want because I can't "shoot > holes in your example" to your satisfaction. Wait, what ? You actually already tried that ? When ? But, If I can shoot holes in your shooting than who's problem is that ? :-) And no, I do not try to imply you are stupid, but perhaps just have to much of "I remember it this way, so that must be the only truth" in your mind - without actually knowing (anymore?) why that truth is just that. I challenged you to think for yourself, instead of just going blind on someone elses say-so. Maybe you and others are right, but you have done little to /explain/ that to me. > There's no such thing as "their facts." There are facts, lies, and > just opinions. What Chris said was fact. In my book anything thats unproven is just an opinion. Its as simple as that. > Even if it isn't supported by your brief and incomplete testing. Go ahead, shoot holes into it. Just bluntly, without any kind of underbuilding, claiming stuff like that doesn't work with me. Which by now you should have been aware of ... > I was quite happy to see your posts up until this point. It > appeared that you were making great headway and maybe > even enjoying Python I was thinking so to. But this morning I seriously contemplating of at least ditching this newsgroup, if not also Python, because of the incapability (or unwillingness?) of the different contributors to place themselves in the shoes of me, a newbie. Yeah, it works both ways. :-((( Regards, Rudy Wieser -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list