On 13 Nov 2018, at 09:51, Bev in TX <countryon...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Nov 12, 2018, at 5:50 PM, Terry Reedy <tjre...@udel.edu> wrote:
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> For me, open (command-O) opens 'Documents'.  I presume it should be easy 
> enough to move into a 'py' subfolder.

The whole point is for Idle -> File -> Open (or command-O) to automatically 
open to a specific folder.

Bev in TX


Thank you, Bev in TX for clarifying my question.  That is indeed what I seek.   
My course has proved cumbersome every time a student created a new program in 
class, since they would have to change folders.    And when

I got to working with data files, I ended up with a little punt to avoid having 
to specify a complete path name to get to a workable directory.


My students are not programmers.  I have English majors, Education majors, and 
students in their first year at a University.  I won't say they are completely 
computer-illiterate, they can use a browser well enough.   But I expect none of 
them to have ever seen the command line, so I really don't want to go that 
route.


As far as activating IDLE on this Windows 10 system,

I go down to the search bar at the bottom left, type 'IDLE', and then up comes 
a list of various installations

we have lying around, including 2.7, 3.4, and 3.6 versions.   I have them just 
select the 3.6 version from the list to launch IDLE.    I don't consider that 
quite the same as using a 'shortcut', since we are not clicking on any icon on 
the desktop.


I am not on the campus-wide labs right now, so I cannot really say much further 
-- and I haven't tried right-clicking on those items to see if configuration 
options show up, to talk to the %AppData% path, etc.


The Penn State computer labs are networked -- each computer has a C: drive, 
which I presume might be local to each machine -- but in any case, I think it 
is read-only

to the students.  And since they could easily sit down at a different machine 
on any day, I wouldn't want to rely on any configuration file or anything on 
the C drive anyway.


There is a networked U: drive (for users) that is campus wide, which is useful. 
 There is also a virtual V: drive, which simply maps to each individual's 
folder set aside for them on the U: drive.   That place would be ideal for my 
purposes as a place to save code and data files.


But the default directory is somewhere else.   I would

have to get back on campus before I can quote exactly,

but wherever it is a readonly file space that's not the

Desktop or My Documents, or who knows what.

I'd preferably like to reset the default to the V: drive

(or even create a Python folder on that virtual V: drive).


And the real challenge is to come up with the simplest

solution that I can explain or show to first-time programming students in under 
a minute, which therefore does not involve the command-line interface.

I don't want to scare half the students away in the very first class, just 
trying to configure their development environment.


If that's impossible, then I guess I'll have to fire a note off to the  
university tech support requesting them to play with that "Start In" option 
through %AppData%, or whatever it was.


Roger Christman

Pennsylvania State University
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