On Saturday, June 30, 2018 at 6:39:36 PM UTC-4, MRAB wrote:
> On 2018-06-30 23:01, T Berger wrote:
> > On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 7:00:15 PM UTC-4, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> > 
> >> The key point here from Jim is "simultaneously". Are you properly shutting 
> >> down 
> >> the Flask instance in IDLE before running from Terminal, and vice versa?
> > 
> > Cameron, I try every option to quit either program, but they don't work. Or 
> > I should say, they mostly don't work. Once in a while they do. The one 
> > option which works (which is not a feasible option) is rebooting my Mac 
> > (actually that might not work either. I think I got the error message again 
> > this morning when I rebooted).
> >   
> >> Otherwise both will try to use the same local port and There Can Be Only 
> >> One.
> >> 
> >> Do you need to run from both environments at the same time? I'd have 
> >> thought 
> >> not, which also leads me to: why are you flicking from IDLE to Terminal? I 
> >> would have imagined using one or the other normally, not both. It isn't 
> >> wrong 
> >> to use both, just surprising.
> > 
> > I'm working from a Python manual. I created the webapp in IDLE, and test it 
> > in Terminal, per the instructions in the manual. I use IDLE to edit my 
> > program, and then test it in terminal. When I go from one to the other, I 
> > get the error message. IDLE has a keyboard shortcut for quitting the 
> > shell—Cntl + C—but it doesn't work. Neither does restarting the shell. 
> > Neither does entering the kill command line, not in IDLE or terminal.
> 
> Ctrl+C is the shortcut for interrupting a Python program running on 
> IDLE's or Windows command line. In IDLE's editor, Ctrl+C is the shortcut 
> for copying text the clipboard.
> 
> The keyboard shortcut for quitting IDLE completely is Ctrl+Q.
> 
> > 
> > Do you have any other suggestions? I'm going to email the writer. He 
> > doesn't mention how to deal with problems that might arise from working 
> > with two programs at the same time. Maybe Cntl+C should do it, but in my 
> > case it doesn't.
> >

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