vi/vim is a godssend if you need a working system that needs to fit in 4 Mb or ROM, but it's an editor not an IDE. You can debate about how good an editor it is, but that's just differences in taste I suppose.
When talking about IDE's I mean a lot more as 'just' an editor, below is my 'wishlist', I would be very interested what solutions you use, how much time it took you to set up this solution, and which parts of my 'wishlist' it implements. Also suggestions to add to my 'wishlist' are welcome: - Integrated help. when I press <help button> I should get a help page that's appropriate for the piece of code my cursor currently sits on. - Code completion. If I type 'os.path.', the editor should be a ble to show me a list of all methods and attributes the module has. If I then continue with 'os.path.isfile(', it should show me the parameters for the function. - Integrated GUI design. The IDE should have a graphical tool for designing GUIs, and the editor should be aware of it and propagate changes in an inobtrusive way. - Integrated debugger. I should be able to run my module/program from the editor, execute up to the current cursor position, preset breakpoints (maybe with conditions). The editor should highlight the current line being executed, and give you the choice to: step to the next line, step into the execution of the current line, step out to the function that called the current code, run to the next brekpoint, etc. When the code is running I should be able to inspect the values of all variables currently assigned and change them on the fly. - Code aware editor. Syntax highlighting, syntax checking, automatic indentation, loop folding. Functionality like refatoring, "create function from selected code", inlining current selected function, template macros, coding mistake warnings (for "if (somevar); {do something;}" in C/C++ kind of mistakes). - Integration with version control system. - Code documentation/inspection tools. Ability to generate include and inheritance trees, LOC counters, profiling what lines of you code get executed most/never, helpfile generation from code, etc. - Project management. Tools for communication with coworkers, bugtracking, which targets need which files, automatic install scripts/tools, etc. - Accessible user interface. All functionality should be accessible through some menu structure, so I don't need to depend on my memory. Prefereable reprogrammable/assignable shortcut keys for all functionality, maybe even some form of macros, plugins, etc. - For C/C++: memory leak detection Why I want this? Because I want to spend my time programming my code, not my developement environment. I currently use Eric3+QtDesigner for Python, and while not perfect, I realy like it. I have used Borland C++Builder for C/C++ in the past for Windows, but I haven't found a satisfactory C/C++ solution for my current Linux system yet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Adriaan Renting | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ASTRON | Phone: +31 521 595 217 P.O. Box 2 | GSM: +31 6 24 25 17 28 NL-7990 AA Dwingeloo | FAX: +31 521 597 332 The Netherlands | Web: http://www.astron.nl/~renting/ >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/02/05 4:42 AM >>> On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 18:21:08 -0400 Benji York wrote: > Jon Hewer wrote: > > But, if i use Vi, then whenever i want to test some code i have to > > open up python, import the necessary modules and run it - I like the > > idea of developing python in an IDE and just hitting a run button. > > map <F5> :w<CR>:!python %<CR> Or, probably even better: map <F5> :w<CR>:!xterm -e python -i % &<CR><CR> -- jk -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list