Adriaan Renting wrote: > vi/vim is a godssend if you need a working system that needs to fit in 4 > Mb or ROM, but it's an editor not an IDE.
> When talking about IDE's I mean a lot more as 'just' an editor, below is > my 'wishlist', I would be very interested what solutions you use, how > much time it took you to set up this solution, and which parts of my > 'wishlist' it implements. First, a disclaimer: your point of "how much time it took you to set up?" is definitely valid. I would assert that it is also valid to ask "how much time did it save you once it was set up to work precisely the way you wanted it to?" > - Integrated help. > - Code completion. > - Integrated debugger. I've seen (but not used, because I don't want these features) Vim scripts to do these. They exist for Emacs too. > - Integrated GUI design. > The IDE should have a graphical tool for designing GUIs, and the editor > should be aware of it and propagate changes in an inobtrusive way. Not in Vim (or Emacs), but the best GUI designers /I've/ seen are stand-alone anyway. In other words, their not in an IDE either. > - Code aware editor. > - Integration with version control system. > - Code documentation/inspection tools. I use Vim for these. > Ability to generate include and inheritance trees On the rare occasions I do something like this it's with apidoc. > LOC counters I use sloccount (outside of Vim). > profiling what lines of you code get executed most/never I use a testing framework or profiler for that (outside of Vim) > helpfile generation from code, etc. I don't do that, but if I did, it would probably be outside of Vim. > Tools for communication with coworkers Gaim and Thunderbird > bugtracking Zope collector and Roundup > which targets need which files, automatic install scripts/tools, > etc. (If I understand you correctly) I use a tool we developed internally to do this. > - Accessible user interface. > All functionality should be accessible through some menu structure, so I > don't need to depend on my memory. Prefereable reprogrammable/assignable > shortcut keys for all functionality, maybe even some form of macros, > plugins, etc. Vim (and Emacs) does this (there are a few non-menu accessible things, but they can be added to menus as you please). > - For C/C++: > memory leak detection External tools. > Why I want this? Because I want to spend my time programming my > code, not my developement environment. Why would I spend the time setting this up? Because I want to spend my time programming my code, not fighting my development environment. :) I wonder why you would want some of these things integrated into an IDE (communication, LOC counter, etc.) -- Benji York -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
