On 24/01/2015 23:20, Rick Johnson wrote:
On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 1:49:08 AM UTC-6, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Rick Johnson wrote:
[... snip absurdities...]
Duh! Do you think i just pulled stub files out my arse
without giving all the other alternatives due consideration?
Actually, yes. I think that had Guido proclaimed that
C-style header files were the only way to give type hints,
you would be arguing right now that they were awful and
that the one and only correct way to do type-hinting is to
use annotations.
So now we arrive at the true nature of our conflict: your
"false projections" of my "true intentions".
Listen, I hold a deep respect for Guido's achievements and
his intellectual prowess, but i'm not about to kiss is
backside when i feel he is wrong, and this "type hints" idea
is dangerously wrong!
For at least the third time the PEP was written by three people, one of
whom was the BDFL. Why do you keep insisting that "he" is wrong, surely
it should be "they" ?
Diversity, dissension, and conflict are our friends, not
enemies to be feared. We must embrace those ideas that are
foreign to us, give them due consideration, and objectively
apply "weighted values" to them. Whereas, sitting in a room
surrounded by mirrors and becoming lost in the recursive
"reflection of self", is not evolution, but merely, an
illusion.
Besides, why does he need *ME* to lick his boots when he
already has plenty of fan-boys over at python-ideas and
python-dev lining up. This community is *NOT*, and should
never be, a homogeneous block -- for we would be doing
ourselves a disservice.
A substantial number of people on both lists are perfectly happy to
speak their mind, to the extent that Guido has been known to do u-turns.
Nobody has any need to lick anybody's boots, and to suggest that this
is the case I find highly insulting to the entire Python community.
So if you cannot provide me with respect that i *DESERVE* as
a member of this fine community, then you should at least
admit that my presence is a vital counterbalance to prevent
this tiny life-vessel from capsizing as it's thrashed around
the treacherous "seas of evolution".
You (singular) have to *EARN* respect, you do not deserve it. If you
were to stick to subjects that you have knowledge of, such as
tkinter/IDLE, you would earn that respect. Serving up dross as you do
so often gets you nothing except plonks.
--
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
what you can do for our language.
Mark Lawrence
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