> On Oct 6, 2014, at 4:49 PM, Steven D'Aprano <st...@pearwood.info> wrote: > >> On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 10:05:40 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote: >> >>> On Monday, October 6, 2014 10:22:27 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote: >>>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 3:23 AM, Rustom Mody wrote: >>>> Consider the sequence: >>>> 1. Drives on the wrong side of the road 2. Has no clue that there's >>>> such a concept as 'wrong side of road' 3. Teaches people to drive >>>> without conveying anything about 'wrong side of road' Hopefully you >>>> will agree that 1 < 2 < 3?? My gripe is with 3 >> >>> No, I don't agree. >> >> Interesting >> >> So you dont agree with: "1<2<3" ? > > I can't speak for Chris, by my answer is neither Yes nor No, but Mu. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_%28negative%29#In_popular_culture > > > I don't understand what semantics you are giving the < symbol. It's not > "less than", since statements 1, 2 and 3 above don't have a total order > or even a partial order. What does it mean to say that "Drives on the > wrong side of the road" is less than "Teaches people to drive without > conveying anything about 'wrong side of road'"? Less than in what sense? > Alphabetical order? Less dangerous? Less competent? Less annoying? Less > expensive? > > So, no, I don't agree. Nor do I disagree. > > I have fewer issues with your conclusion and analogy than I do with the > basic premise that there is a connection between Seymore's problem here > and the use, or non-use, of print in the interactive interpreter. I don't > see how replacing interactive use and/or the use of print with functions > containing return statements would help Seymore. > > > >> Or with "My gripe is 3" ? >> >> The second would be quite bizarre: > > If it's bizarre, why do you consider that Chris may mean that? The > reasonable thing would be to reject it from contention. > > >> "I have a headache..." >> >> "Sorry. But I dont agree with that" > > > "I don't agree that you have a headache. You're obviously lying, acting, > delusional, an insentient robot programmed to repeat the words 'I have a > headache', a zombie (not the brain eating kind, the philosophical kind), > a sophisticated bot (but not sophisticated enough to pass the Turing > test), or otherwise faking it." > > I'm just sayin'... > > > > -- > Steven > -- > I agree that 1<2<3. From a numerical point of view this is correct. The > distraction here is the inference that the numbers somehow relate to the > statements preceding this conclusion.
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