On 10/01/2013 08:24 AM, Daniel Stojanov wrote: > On 02/10/2013 12:05 AM, "Νίκος" <nikos.gr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks for visting my website: you help me increase my google page >> rank without actually utilizing SEO. >> >> -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > > 1) You need links, not page views to improve your Google rank. > > 2) I just signed up the this mailing list. To the regulars, is this > what normally happens on this list?
Recently, it seems to have become normal. > 3) I'm a bit late to the party. Is Nikos a real sysadmin or is this > some horrible inside joke I don't get? Nikos is running a website he wrote in Python and seems to be learning as he goes. He offends a number of people here by refusing to take "advice" such as hire someone, spend a few years learning python, system administration, webserver administration, and the like given without the slightest knowledge of Nikos' circumstances. He also repeatedly re- asks questions when he doesn't understand or like the answers received, seems to prefer to find answers to questions by asking here rather than researching himself (tho it is not clear how much being a non-native English speaker plays into that.) He is also willing to respond in kind to hostile remarks addressed to him, and does not display proper deference to the regulars here in other way too. All of the above irritates a number of people here, who, being rather like Nikos themselves in their complete disregard for the signal-to-noise ratio or atmosphere of the group, find in him a good excuse to vent their own frustrations by responding with more patently useless "advice", insults, ridicule, threats and other vitriolic noise. They rationalize this as applying social pressure blithely ignoring that it's shown no signs of working. In other words, many of Nikos' threads degenerate into a plain old-fashioned flame war. Probably the vast majority of readers do their best to simply ignore the trash posts but there is small (but large enough) group of regulars who enjoy participating in such flame wars to degrade the quality of the group far more than would be the case if they were able to follow the time-tested advice of "don't feed the trolls". While Stephen D'Aprano is often enough an abrasive poster in his own right, his comments on the current situation are the most sensible I've seen in this disscussion: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2013-October/656691.html https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2013-October/656716.html -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list