> >> The point why Ruby was started (perceived deficit of > >> object-orientation) has been remedied since Python 2.2. > > > > Not completely. At the least, there's arguably still the issue of > > len() and friends (vs. `.length` etc.), and also of `self` being > > explicit. > > I'm not entirely sure which "perceived deficit of object-orientation" > is being talked about, or why anyone but OOP purists would consider > that a problem.
Yukihiro Matsumoto did. I myself never perceived any lack of object-orientation with Python, since I've learned programming with Pascal anyway. >;-> I just wanted to point out that given the state of Python today, no one would probably consider starting Ruby any more. Sincerely, Wolfgang -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
