On 2012-08-01, Laszlo Nagy <gand...@shopzeus.com> wrote: > >>>> things get more tricky, because I can't use queues and pipes to >>>> communicate with a running process that it's noit my child, correct? >>>> >>> Yes, I think that is correct. >> I don't understand why detaching a child process on Linux/Unix would >> make IPC stop working. Can somebody explain? > > It is implemented with shared memory. I think (although I'm not 100% > sure) that shared memory is created *and freed up* (shm_unlink() system > call) by the parent process. It makes sense, because the child processes > will surely die with the parent. If you detach a child process, then it > won't be killed with its original parent. But the shared memory will be > freed by the original parent process anyway. I suspect that the child > that has mapped that shared memory segment will try to access a freed up > resource, do a segfault or something similar.
I still don't get it. shm_unlink() works the same way unlink() does. The resource itself doesn't cease to exist until all open file handles are closed. From the shm_unlink() man page on Linux: The operation of shm_unlink() is analogous to unlink(2): it removes a shared memory object name, and, once all processes have unmapped the object, de-allocates and destroys the contents of the associated memory region. After a successful shm_unlink(), attempts to shm_open() an object with the same name will fail (unless O_CREAT was specified, in which case a new, distinct object is created). Even if the parent calls shm_unlink(), the shared-memory resource will continue to exist (and be usable) until all processes that are holding open file handles unmap/close them. So not only will detached children not crash, they'll still be able to use the shared memory objects to talk to each other. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards Yow! Why is it that when at you DIE, you can't take gmail.com your HOME ENTERTAINMENT CENTER with you?? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list