Am 10.06.2012 08:16, schrieb rusi:
This is worth a read in this context: http://osteele.com/archives/2004/11/ides
So which language would you suggest to use next? ;-)
I've read the article. It presents some nice ideas, but probably the author has not used Python before. Otherwise he would have noticed that the overall productivity does not only depend on language and IDE/editor, but on the complete environment which in the case of Python includes the ability to use the interpreter interactively. For many tasks that's a major productivity boost. But that's a point that many people don't see because their current language like C# or Java does not have an interpreter and when they just look at the syntax, the find "there's not enough improvement to switch". Also, I'm not sure whether the author counts the libraries as language or tool feature. In my opinion the environment and the libraries should be listed on their own in such an article. Libraries are developed after the language, but usually they are ahead of the other tools/IDEs. The author lists many IDE features that I personally don't find too important (the refactoring capabilities of a simple text editor are fine for me...). But following the link to Laszlo made the reason quite clear because his IDE background is from Eclipse not from Python. Btw.: I've been using Python for 16 or 17 years now. Only 3 years ago I did the switch from Editor to IDE (Wing IDE) and this has brought a *significant* boost of productivity (especially the good debugger allows you to code in a different way as you can use the interactive interpreter at any point in your program). But back to my original point, this time in the context of the article: If you want to 'sell' a programming language for corporate use, you absolutely need the tools. And this includes an easy-to-use GUI editor which does not only allow to create the GUI, but also to fill it with code. Most corporate users are casual users, not full time programmers. Regards, Dietmar -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
