On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 5:29 AM, flebber <flebber.c...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 1, 11:38 pm, rantingrick <rantingr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Feb 1, 4:20 am, flebber <flebber.c...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Sorry Rick too boring....trying to get bored people to bite at your >> > ultra lame post yawn........... >> >> Well reality and truth both has a tendency to be boring. Why? Well >> because we bathe in them daily. We have come accustomed, acclimated, >> and sadly complacent of the ill state of our stdlib. Yes, boring. >> However we must be aware of these things. > > Yes but fixing idle just gives us another editor, there isn't a > shortage of editors. There is a shortage of a common community code > base for an ide framework, logical, reusable and extensible. > > For an example of a brilliant beginners "ide" racket has it covered > with DrRacket http://racket-lang.org/ , it has selectable language > levels beginner, intermediate, advanced that allows the learner to > adjust the level of language features available as they learn, > teachpacks are installable to add extra features or options when > completing the tutorials(could easily be adapted to the python > tutorials). If idle is for teaching people to learn python shouldn't > it have the facility to do that?
Python is a general purpose language that's designed to be easy to use. Racket is a language that was designed for teaching programming. It's almost exclusively tied to a single IDE. Something like language levels would be impossible to do in Python unless you re-do the parser. There's no feature that allows you to strip for loops or list comprehensions out of the language. And we already have something better than teachpacks- the import mechanism and the ability to install 3rd party extensions. > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
