From: "Steven D'Aprano" <steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info>
Quality code is a good thing, but there are people who write good code
but are so obnoxious that you wouldn't listen to a word they have to say,
and people who are only mediocre or average coders, but are otherwise
helpful and friendly.

I'm amazed that Rick actually asked that question. Was he being sarcastic?

In virtually every thread he takes part in, he is implicitly or
explicitly told what he needs to do to be taken seriously:

- stop ranting;
- it's not all about him;
- stop using "we" when he really means "me";
- he is not the conscience of the Python community;
- stop pretending to be speaking for the community when it's
 obvious the community doesn't agree with him;
- stop insulting everyone unless they agree with him;
- if people don't agree with Rick, that doesn't mean they're in
 thrall to a hide-bound reactionary elite that has lost all
 touch with what makes Python good;
- enough with the hero-worship of Guido (except when he's
 insulting Guido as well);
- stop demanding others do all the work -- if Rick thinks
 something should be done, he should start a project and begin
 building it, then ask for volunteers to help;
- listen to others' criticisms, don't just dismiss them without
 thought;
- there's no shame in being mistaken if you are big enough to
 admit, and learn from, your errors;
- enough with the over-blown melodrama, Python isn't going to be
 destroyed just because there's some tiny little corner that
 doesn't meet Rick's idea of perfection.


That would do for starters.


TL;DR. The shorter version: stop being a dick, and people will treat you
seriously.



Wow! now I think I understand some of the atitudes on this list.
It seems that some of the list members know each other very well, and they have strong opinions, maybe for good reasons, I don't know, and I just dropped some messages without knowing who is considered good, who is the bad, who are those with valuable opinions and so on.

I am sorry if I offended someone, but the main idea I just wanted to express was that Python should promote the accessibility and deprecate those tools which are not accessible. That's all. It should not force anyone to use anything but it just promote the right tools (which is not the case now, but it seems that there is a technical reason for this... the fact that WxPython can't be used in Python 3).

Octavian

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