thanks Greg, you get most of what i meant like i said before, i suspect descriptor encourages dedicated / not shared descriptor obj. this encouragement is expressed in the design, and the reasons behind the design were the ones that i was asking about, not how to get around it
now, i'm asking another favor, what about the 2nd point in my 1st post? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
