On Jun 13, 1:50 am, Stephen Hansen <me+list/pyt...@ixokai.io> wrote:
> You don't argue a position; you don't support it with facts, logic, > reason. You start immediately into this emotional rhetoric, > pseudo-inspirational nonsense which just comes off as inane. It's like a > bad cross between a politician and an self-help speaker, and the crux of > your arguments are focused on that emotional charge-- how TCL is impure, > gross, and its inclusion makes us "less", makes us the mockery of the > language world, how everyone loathes and detests it. Could it be that *you* are taking my opinions and suggestions too emotionality? > Meaning to or not, you come across as a troll, as if these emotional > responses are your end and not your means. My *ends* are to move Python forward. No i do not i have all the answers however i can look at what i do see and ask the hard questions. Then i would like to get some "thoughtful" answers. Instead of just simply barking down orders from the top we need to have useful discussion on the many topics that concern Python. And not just the "core" developers or the "core" protagonist on this list should be involved in this discussion. Everyone needs to have a chance to speak. My are arguments for Tkinter/Tcl/Tk are all true. However it should be a community decision (not my sole decision or yours!) as to whether Tkinter stays or not. As i have said before i *do* actually use Tkinter quite a lot (along with other libraries). But we must make a choice, Keep Tkinter and improve it, or dump Tkinter and consider something that will scale better for the future. I AM HAPPY EITHER WAY! I have documented time and again the poor state of IDLE. The only responses i ever get are... "Nobody uses IDLE" "Only a dumbass would use IDLE" "I have never used IDLE but i *know* nothing is wrong with it" ... and all these arguments are BS! It's just more argumentative hyperbole that keeps these and many other modules in static development. I am also committing to contributing code myself *if* it will be seriously considered on the *value* of the code and NOT *who* it originated from. But i digress... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
