greg wrote:

So in my humble opinion, the strong form of the Sapir-Whorf
hypothesis is bunk. :-)

It also seems not to have been their hypothesis ;-). from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapir-Whorf_hypothesis

"Since neither Sapir nor Whorf had ever stated an actual hypothesis, Lenneberg formulated one based on a condensation of the different expressions of the notion of linguistic relativity in their works. He found it necessary to formulate the hypothesis as two basic formulations which he called the "weak" and the "strong" formulation respectively:

1. Structural differences between language systems will, in general, be paralleled by nonlinguistic cognitive differences, of an unspecified sort, in the native speakers of the language. 2. The structure of anyone's native language strongly influences or fully determines the worldview he will acquire as he learns the language.[14]

Since Lenneberg believed that the objective reality denotated by language was the same for speakers of all language he decided to test how different languages codified the same message differently and whether differences in codification could be proven to affect their behaviour." ..."Lenneberg's two formulations of the hypothesis became widely known and attributed to Whorf and Sapir while in fact the second formulation, verging on linguistic determinism, was never advanced by either of them."

In other words, the 'Strong' form is a strawman erected by someone somewhat opposed to their ideas.

tjr


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