On Aug 12, 9:09 am, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: > On 01:27 pm, jeanmic...@sequans.com wrote: > > > > > > >Simon Brunning wrote: > >>2009/8/11 Robert Dailey <rcdai...@gmail.com>: > >>>On Aug 11, 3:40 pm, Bearophile <bearophileh...@lycos.com> wrote: > >>>>There are gals too here. > >>>It's a figure of speech. And besides, why would I want programming > >>>advice from a woman? lol. Thanks for the help. > > >>Give the attitudes still prevalent in our industry (cf > >><http://tinyurl.com/c5nqju> and many more), I'm sorry to say that I > >>don't think this is funny. > >Having someone present technical informations with porn content cannot > >be qualified as "prevalent in our industry". I would even dare to say > >this is the opposite, it is almost unique. > >I would also add that Robert was very far from this attitude, I > >consider his joke as a friendly tickle, not a male chauvinist > >aggression. I'm no women, but I'm sure they are as capable as me, not > >to say more, of making the distinction. > > >It has been said this list is not very friendly to newbies, let's not > >make it hostile to gentle jokes (even those not funny) when thanking > >helpers. > > It's lots of little things like this which combine to create an > environment which is less friendly towards women than it is towards > others. You might read it as a joke, others might not. Even if it is a > joke, it's in poor taste and doesn't really belong on python-list. > > There's a difference between pointing out inappropriate behavior and > being unfriendly. Hopefully Robert got help with his problem. That's > what the list is here for. Having accomplished that, it is not > unfriendly to ask him not to make disparaging comments, "jokes" or > otherwise, about groups of people. > > Jean-Paul
Hey everyone, I was actually joking about my remark, I was making fun of the fact that Bearophile took my figure of speech literally. I have worked with a lot of women in the past and they even use "guys" to refer to everyone in a room (When there were obviously other females in that room as well). On a more serious note, I do apologize to those offended by my remark. I realize that these things can be a touchy subject for some people. I expected more of a laid-back attitude from everyone. No need to be so serious all the time. I cannot completely doubt that there are logical women out there. I just haven't seen one yet. But that doesn't mean I'm a sexist. With my apology presented, I would like to propose that we end the discussion here. As I said, this is a very sensitive subject and this thread could spin way out of control if we don't just ignore the issue. For those that took it as a friendly, harmless joke, hopefully you had a laugh. For those that took it seriously or as an offense, please take my apology to heart. Thanks once again to everyone for your help. I've long been a member of this community and I really appreciate the continuous support I've been receiving! Take care everyone! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
