Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2009-04-23, MRAB <goo...@mrabarnett.plus.com> wrote:
tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote:
It seems to me that mailbox.mbox.add() sets the access time of a mbox
file as well as the modification time.  This is not good for MUAs that
detect new mail by looking to see if the access time is before the
modification time.

Have I done something wrong somewhere or is mailbox.mbox.add() really
as broken as it would appear?

[snip]
The access time is the time it was last accessed, ie read or modified.

Usually.

The modification time is the time it was last modified.

Usually.

The access time can never be before the modification time because it
must be accessed in order to be modified!

Nonsense.  You can set atime and mtime to anything you want.

Well, yes, you can always change atime and mtime and make it look like
something happened at a different time to when it actually happened...

SOP for writing to to an mbox formatted mailbox is to preserve
the atime (changing only the mtime) so that other programs know
that that there is "new" mail in the mbox.  I know mutt works
that way, and I believe that the "you've got new mail" features
in some shells work that way.  AFAIK, atime<mtime has been the
"standard" way to determine when an mbox contains new mail for
at least 20 years.

So atime is used to indicate when it was last read, not last accessed?
Hmm...

Anybody writing to an mbox mailbox has to follow the rules if
they expect to interoperate with other mail applications.  If
mailbox.mbox.add() doesn't preserve the atime when writing to
an mbox, then mailbox.mbox.add is broken.

http://www.qmail.org/qmail-manual-html/man5/mbox.html


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