On Mar 20, 2:53 pm, Erich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mar 20, 12:39 pm, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 20, 2008, at 11:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Number Three: Too much code, not enough concept. > > > > Presenters this one's for you. I can't count the number of > > > presentations I attended where the presenter would click through three > > > slides of pycode just to show us a two or three-line snippet that > > > illustrated their point. Worse yet, it was often at the bottom of the > > > screen so no one but the front row could see it. This goes for text > > > two. I saw some great presentations as well, and they had limited > > > text on each slide. The last thing your audience wants to see is a > > > slide drenched in text of any kind. > > > This is good advice: simple slides serve as organization cues, but > > the content should come from the speaker. The worst case (only saw > > this twice at this year's PyCon) is when there is a text-heavy slide > > that the presenter simply reads. We can all read it ourselves! Your > > job is to elaborate on the topic. > > > I'd like to see two things regarding slides: first, if at all > > possible, set a limit on the percentage of the talk that can consist > > of slides. I would much rather see the presenter show actual > > demonstrations of what they're talking about than simply talking about > > it. If that's not possible, then in the session description, clearly > > state the % of the talk that will be slides. Perhaps there are people > > who like to sit in a room and watch long PowerPoint (-type) > > presentations, but I'm not one of them. Let's see some code! Let's see > > stuff working (and sometimes crashing!), and how changes affect the > > results. When I've presented at PyCon and other conferences, that's > > the part that I spend the most time on: preparing demonstrations. It's > > not easy to do; certainly much more difficult than creating a slide > > that sums up what the demo does. But it makes for a much more > > interesting session! > > > -- Ed Leafe > > I'd like to see code listings made available to download where > appropriate. That way the slides dont have much hard to read content, > and we can look at the bits of code we find tricky as we see fit. And > if we get bored with bits, we can play with code! > > Erich.
agreed. and just to clarify, i LIKE CODE! i hope we all do haha... but in a presentation setting if they could teach/share with us what they've been doing, allow us to download some example code (and tinker with it) and remove all those details from the slides, itd be vastly helpful. I fully expect anyone who presented this time (who takes time to TRY to improve) will improve. -adam -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list