George Sakkis wrote: > On Feb 22, 2:15 pm, Jeff Schwab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Nicola Musatti wrote: >>> The real sad thing is that nobody is likely to convince Guido to turn >>> CPython into C++Python ;-) >> How difficult would that be? Could it be done in stages? I would be >> willing to spend some time on that kind of project. > > Yeah right.. what we need is yet another implementation of Python. At > least Jython/IronPython/Pypy (and Pyrex, Cython, Shedskin, etc.) had a > better motivation than "my language is better than yours". I am sure > your time, skills and experience would be much appreciated in more > useful projects.
Neither C++ nor C is "my" language, nor "yours." I love all my children the same. :) That said, your point is well taken. What I would like is not so much a new Python implementation, as a vehicle to help demonstrate a few things to other Python users. Recently, I've had a few replies in tones that imply I'm on the brink of entering several kill-files, mostly because I express disagreement with a few closely held beliefs of some other c.l.p posters. For example, the following are widely held opinions with which I disagree: (1) Python is a gotcha-free language. (2) C++ is basically the same language as C, but more complicated. (3) Garbage collection is at least as desirable a language feature as deterministic destruction. (4) Static typing is inferior to dynamic typing. One of the things that's supposed to be great about Python is the user community, and in many ways, that community is wonderful; for example, both new and experienced users can quickly get a variety of solutions to any given coding issue, just by asking for help. In other ways, though, the Python community is just blindingly ignorant, arrogant, and argumentative. I expect my use of Python to increase in the coming years, so I want the best possible relationship with other regular users, especially on Usenet. To do that, I think it would be helpful to have an informed discussion. Instead, I mostly just the same old justifications for baseless bigotry: "I worked with crappy [Perl or C++] code for ten years, so when I tell you [Perl or C++] encourages crappy code, I know what I'm talking about." "These beliefs are accepted by just about everybody. You don't *really* think all these bright people are wrong, do you?" "C++ is not newbie-friendly; if you need proof, just look at all these really low-level ways you can screw yourself." When I see this silliness again and again, it really breaks my heart, because the culture of the software development industry has a strong effect on the quality of my own life. I care about clean air, because I breath it; clean water, because I drink it; and I am starting to become really concerned about the clarity of mind of the Python community, because I hope to rely on it. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
