walterbyrd a écrit : > On Jul 22, 12:17 am, Bruno Desthuilliers > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Either you are a casual user with 101 web >> development skills trying to set up your personal home page > > But this, sort of, brings me back to my original point. Nobody starts > out being advanced.
Nope. But some start out being already seasoned programmers, even if they never done web development !-) > There are substantial differences in cost, and > deployment, between PHP and Python. Depends on the context. But true, it's easier to get PHP than Python on a budget shared hosting (except possibly for python cgi). > It is much easier to get started > with PHP. If you are not programmer and don't know anything about the HTTP protocol, yes, indeed. > And once somebody has started with PHP, that person is > likely to stay with PHP. FWIW, I started web programming with PHP. Then I quickly started to look for Python-based solutions. > Most PHP developers do not see a compelling > reason to start all over again with Python. If I judge by the average quality of the php code I've seen so far - and I've seen quite a lot - most "PHP developers" don't know zilch about both programming and the web. The others are usually not "PHP developers" but developers using PHP - which is not exactly the same thing. There are, of course, well-designed, well-written php apps, but that's certainly not the most common case. > BTW: I have a certain amount of respect for PHP, I don't. > and PHP developers. That's another problem. > PHP5 is a big step forward over PHP4. Because it introduced a Java-like object model ? > And, there have been substantial > web projects completed with PHP Indeed. As well as with Java and Perl. A good programmer is usually able to write good code whatever the language. > - probably more so than with Python. There certainly are more "substantial" web projects written in Java than in Python, and believe me, deploying a Java web app is orders of magnitude more difficult and costly than with a Python one, whatever the Python framework used. Heck, compared to any Java solution, even Zope looks lightweight and agile. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
