I had the same feeling when I started, coming from a C++ background, I forgot about self a lot, creating local copies of what should be an assign to a class instance, or methods that could not be found because I forgot 'self' .
Now I am 'kinda' used to it, as every language has some draw backs (you can't please all). But, what about something in between like only using the dot (.) for a shorter notation? self.some_var = True Could become: .some_var = True Which basically shows about the same thing, but you leave 'self' out of the syntax. Ofcourse it should not be allowed to break a line between the dot and the keywords, else Python would never know what to do; my_class() .my_var = True Should not be parsed the same as; my_class().my_var = True Just a suggestion. I am pretty happy with self, but I could settle for a shorter version if possible. - Jorgen On 6/27/07, Roy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Use a shorter name than `self` or an editor with auto completion. > > Of the two, I'd strongly vote for the auto completion (assuming you feel > the need to "solve" this problem at all). The name "self" is so ingrained > in most Python programmers minds, that it's almost a keyword. Changing it > to "this" or "s" or "me" will just make your program a little harder for > other people to understand. > > Changing it to "this" would be particularly perverse since it's not even > any less typing. In fact, on a standard keyboard, it's harder to type > since it involves moving off the home row more :-) > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list